Neverending Story 3: The Ongoing Brexit Thread

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  1. lanman

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    #4476 lanman, Jun 20, 2019
    We're not electing Johnson. The Tory members are.
     
  2. Naughtius Maximus

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    #4477 Naughtius Maximus, Jun 20, 2019
    It would make it more difficult but, in all honesty, Johnson is just a weasley little shit and a clown. He's not generally malignant like donny tiny hands is.

    Also, don't forget, 99.7% of the population haven't got a say in this and, in any event, the people that have aren't electing a president... they're electing a PM in a hung parliament. His power is severely curtailed.

    In short... NO! :)
     
  3. roby

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    #4478 roby, Jun 20, 2019
    What the hell is this...a remake of Brokeback Mountain? :confused:
     
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  4. rslfanboy

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    #4479 rslfanboy, Jun 20, 2019
    Magic Mike XXXL
     
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  5. roby

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    #4480 roby, Jun 20, 2019
    I didn't realize that the West Midlands UK had a Myrtle Beach. Is it close to Shropshire? :unsure::whistling:
     
  6. Naughtius Maximus

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    #4481 Naughtius Maximus, Jun 20, 2019
    Pfftt... that sort of thing is nothing unusual around here :eek:

    :giggle:
     
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  7. charlie15

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    #4482 charlie15, Jun 21, 2019
    The next England PM.....

    The Guardian: “Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbors heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.”

    “The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.”

    The Mirror reports that Symonds was heard telling the Tory leadership candidate to “get off me” and “get out of my flat” during the disturbance.
     
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  8. lanman

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    #4483 lanman, Jun 21, 2019
    In normal times, this would rule him out of the job, but given the membership are largely 60+ aged men, I doubt it has any impact unless he's formally charged.
     
  9. Naughtius Maximus

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    #4484 Naughtius Maximus, Jun 21, 2019
    If it was 'normal times' he wouldn't even get NEAR the PM's position.

    However, in the unlikely event the tory 'faithful', (if that isn't an oxymoron), decide to go for Hunt, I will PISS myself laughing :D
     
  10. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #4485 feyenoordsoccerfan, Jun 22, 2019
    Mmm, your LW wants a word with you:D
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4486 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 23, 2019
    It's fascinating how rising authoritarianism not only targets minorities but also rolls back progress on sexual equality.

    The Bojo incident now sees major news papers directly attacking decades of progress on reporting domestic violence incidents.

    When I lived in wellington, a particularly nasty man lived in the apartment next to us, and he had huge bust ups with his much younger girlfriend every weekend. Of course drugs and alcohol were involved and she was very vulnerable - especially once pregnant with his kid (of course)

    As a strict policy, we and the other neighbours rang the police whenever it started up. After all, who is to know what all those crashing sounds are? The police would attend swiftly and do precisely nothing (this was the 90s).

    This led to him threatening us.

    So here we are with Bojo. I don't know what happened, but he does owe us an explanation. We don't want an abuser as PM!

    Sadly, right wing media wants us to go back 20--30 years
     
  12. The Biscuitman

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    #4487 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    The whole 'default' thing is something Farage talks up. It's a bit like driving towards a brick wall and saying your default position is that you will crash into it. Well yeah, but you will be given a choice to not do that, and we know what decision you will make.
     
  13. The Biscuitman

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    #4488 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    Disagree with your middle bit about automatically leaving, it's just not how parliamentary process works (see my other post). If nothing happens at all then we are heading towards leaving, but it's already been confirmed loads of times that at that point parliament will be asked to approve the position we are heading towards, even if that decision is no deal then parliament will be asked to say that they want to go ahead with that.
     
  14. The Biscuitman

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    #4489 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    I see Johnson is now touring the country pretending to Tory members that we do get a 2 year transition period if we leave on no deal and also he is saying we can just apply GATT24, which had been proven many times that we cant.

    The bloke is the absolute number 1 b*llsh*tter, but he knows that is all he has to be to get the top job. One he had thr job though what on earth does he do.
     
  15. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #4490 feyenoordsoccerfan, Jun 23, 2019
    Problem is an awesome number of people and also too many mp's donot see a brick wall, but an open gate into a promised land of milk and honey.
     
  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4491 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 23, 2019
    Yes but to avoid crashing out parliament would have to revoke a50

    Would they do that?

    Juat voting against no deal does not stop it.
     
  17. The Biscuitman

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    #4492 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    They have a choice of voting for whatever they want to happen and to block what they dont want. What cant happen is a PM decides he will let the clock run down and the HoC can do nothing about it. That isn't how parliament works.
     
  18. The Biscuitman

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    #4493 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    HoC is very heavily against no deal.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4494 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 23, 2019
    I think you misunderstand something here.

    Brexit happens 100% outside of UK domestic law - by automatic operation - in October 2019 thanks to the a50 notice (plus extensions)

    The only way Parliament can the UK crashing out is

    1. Approving a deal
    2. Revoking A50

    So which way are you saying Parliament will stop the UK crashing out?

    The EU 27 can prevent crash out only via extension - but the UK must request it.
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4495 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 23, 2019
    They already voted against no deal. Sadly, that does not stop no deal from happening.
     
  21. The Biscuitman

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    #4496 The Biscuitman, Jun 23, 2019
    You think I misunderstand it, I think you misunderstand it.

    Sums up how complex and messy this whole thing is tbh ;)
     
  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #4497 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Jun 23, 2019
    Neither did we. Whitelandia had a different plan for us tho.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4498 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 23, 2019
    But what is your specific answer as to how Parliament stops no deal?
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

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    #4499 Naughtius Maximus, Jun 23, 2019
    Well, in the final analysis it's the threat of enough tory MP's being prepared to vote against their own government, (or at least abstain), in a confidence motion if it looks like Johnson is prepared to just let the clock run down until we leave. In the final analysis there is no other threat because, (and I may have mentioned this before), labour isn't actually in power.

    Labour MP's in strongly leave seats might be prepared to vote to leave but they won't vote in support of a Johnson-led tory government in a confidence motion.

    If he tried to push that through he'd risk being the shortest-ever PM in history.
     
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  25. roby

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    #4500 roby, Jun 24, 2019
    How tall is Boris? Spencer Percival, Prime Minister from 1809 to 1812, was 5' 4". Sadly he was murdered in the lobby of the House Of Commons. :geek:
     
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