Copa America 2019

Discussion in 'Copa America 2019' started by Danko, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    they are mostly kids who haven't even been capped yet, with a sprinkling of one or two legit first team players.

    Personally I was not that impressed with Chile, I thought the scoreline totally flatered them. Japan was actually outplaying them for much of the first half until they scored, and then Japan fell apart. Considering they are mostly kids it is understandable they fell apart, but clearly have learned form such an experience I guess.
     
  2. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Damn second goal for japan!
     
  3. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uruguay equalizes! This is a great game!
     
  4. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    Mostly a bit more luck. Japan had like 3 legit easy chances vs Chile, they just didn't go in.
     
  5. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I am honestly impressed with Japan. To think that this is a squad for the Olympics next year when they host makes me think of them to be amongst the favorites. I can't wait to see how they are next year in Toyko.
     
  6. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    They had Belgium on the ropes in what was one of the better world cup games. Very well coached.
     
  7. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think this is their U23 team though .
     
  8. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    gotcha. duly noted
     
  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Japan looked alot better tonight of course. But still... Suarez and Cavani each with a missed sitter, plus 2 cross-bars. So not difficult to see how Chile scored 4. Harder to see how they kept a clean sheet against Japan
     
  10. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The feint on the first Japan was as good as it gets .
     
  11. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    With all respect to Uruguay, whom I see as a legitimate contender, that PK was not right and the Japanese team did not get a PK it deserved. It should have been 2-1 or even 3-1 for Japan.
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    #187 HomietheClown, Jun 21, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2019
    It was a harsh penalty but it was a foul. The Japan defender stuck out his leg and did not hit the ball, he hit the foot of Cavani.
    By rule that is a penalty.
     
  13. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I thought the PK was right.

    Japanese player never touched the ball. clumsy defending
    Japan also had 6 changes and included more experienced players and it showed.
    I think south american sides underestimate other continents wayyy too much and this happens. happened to us.
    Suddenly Uruguay does not look as strong as we thought.

    Lets hope Colombia stays focused on the goal, which is too win the copa.
    I dont doubt our ability i do doubt our mentality.
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    I think every fan of every Nation in this cup is saying the same thing about mentality. No one has looked invincible and every team has flaws.
    Let's see how it goes and which team comes out on top.
     
  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Cavani hit the foot of the Japanese defender on the follow through. Is that clear and obvious mistake by the ref? Not so sure.

    The incident at the other end was certainly clear and obvious. Japan got screwed there for sure. Of course no telling if Japan still would've scored another goal if they got the penalty.

    In the end , fair result in the balance of play.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    Cavani has the right to swing at the ball. A Japanese player does not have the right to stick out his foot unless he hits the ball. If he hits the opposing player instead of the ball it is a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.
     
    Rickdog repped this.
  17. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    you mean Cavani hit HIS foot.
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    Cavani has the right to attempt at the ball for a shot. The defender sticks out his foot and does not get the ball, he gets Cavani instead.
    It is strict and harsh but it is a penalty.
     
  19. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Are you telling me Japan was denied a clear penalty ? I was cooking and didn't see the entire match. Hmm Seems they didn't want one of Conembols flagship teams to be embarassed by Japan's olympic team. VAR only helps to enforce bias against "small teams" IMO We saw this clearly at the last WC.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I did not see the "clear penalty" so I cannot comment on the Japan incident.

    But if VAR goes against small teams within your conspiracy then why is Venezuela getting all the VAR calls?
    Does not make any sense.
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I saw every World Cup match and VAR got the calls correct each time from what I remember.
    I do not remember any calls going against smaller teams that were incorrect.
     
  22. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    You clearly did not see Morocco vs Spain.

    The worst case of daylight robbery ever. It was downright shameful what happened in that match. Morocco were robbed against Portugal as well.

     
  23. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    In the first penalty, from one angle it looks like the Japanese defender simply tries to block the shot and Cavani hits him on the follow through. From the front angle it looks like the defender swings his leg back and hits Cavani. I suppose that it is a question of interpretation, I don't think many refs would've called it, not without VAR.

    At the start of the 2nd half there was a clear penalty, but the ref couldn't be bother to check VAR for this one. The Japanese got screwed.
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I guess its not the ref's responsibility to check with VAR. VAR should message the ref when they think the ref clearly missed something, which was certainly the case here.

    Another time when the 'smaller' team seemed to get the shaft (not VAR related, mind you) was Otamendi not getting a yellow for his penalty foul against Paraguay.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    2 of those calls were black-and-white (i.e. offside). So no room for favoritism.
     

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