Copa America 2019

Discussion in 'Copa America 2019' started by Danko, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Zambrano out of the Copa America. Didn't like his performances anyhow.

    I really hope we replace him with Anderson Santamaria, who is in my opinion our best central defender. I know Gareca will opt for Araujo though.
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #152 HomietheClown, Jun 20, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2019
    Back line issues when having to face a Brasil team looking to score as many goals as possible sounds like bad timing.
    Better hope Gareca get's it right.
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    For sure. I always prefer simultaneous kickoffs. Increases fairness and compresses 4 hours worth of twists and turns into just 2 hours.
     
  4. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    That ref is stupid for calling the pK in the first place when he clearly didn't see it. He basically was guessing. Why guess when you have VAR to find anything you missed. Just stupid.
     
  5. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    They had every right to yell at the ref for awarding a ghost penalty.

    The "puta" thing was stupid though I agree.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Technically you have no right to yell at a referee even if he made a mistake. I think Captains are the only ones that should talk to a ref.
     
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  7. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Stupid referee calls goes with stupid team behavior.

    Any player who dares to threaten a referee, should receive a yellow card.
    That stupid referee even managed to get that wrong.

    As far as I can tell both team and referee won't see any more matches at this tournament.
     
  8. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    ummm. It is done all the time. By all teams.
     
  9. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    any referee who hands out PK's based on a guess, knowing he has VAR to back him up if he missed anything is an idiot.

    I dont blame any team for yelling at a ref for doing such.
     
  10. Daninho777

    Daninho777 Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Argentina’s problem lay in the mess that is their FA and media. Both have been a farce for years now. Coaches don’t wanna take the national team and players barely wanna play for it. Till they fix that, they’re not going anywhere.
     
  11. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    I blame any team which continues yelling at a referee, after the call was annulled via VAR review.

    It shows a lack of respect for authority, despite that proper correction was made.
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #162 HomietheClown, Jun 20, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2019
    Even if it is done all the time players do not have the right to yell at a Ref. They can get yellows for dissent. In some Leagues you will get a yellow for not even saying a word but by showing decent by gestures or looking at a ref the wrong way.
     
  13. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Whatever issues a country's soccer federation has, if a manager who is qualified is brought in and is given time, he should be able to build a competitive side.

    Luis Felipe Scolari, whom much of the world mocked because of the 2014 World Cup, also happens to be one of a handful of living men who won the World Cup as managers. He took over Brazil in mid-2001 and under his watch, Brazil was eliminated from that year's Copa América via a 2-0 defeat to Honduras. The mockery he and Brazil got from outside Brazil and the condemnation he got from inside Brazil were enough to break a lesser man. But Scolari stayed the course, led Brazil to 4th place in WCQ, and to a 7-win streak in Korea/Japan that culminated in Brazil's fifth World Cup title.

    Each situation is unique, but the caliber of the manager matters. Scaloni may be a decent human being (I know nothing about him as a person) and he was a fine soccer player (he was part of his country's 2006 World Cup roster), but these are not equivalent to a successful coaching resume.

    Either way, barring a championship win (which looks rather unlikely), the pressure will be on for him to be fired. And for all this I feel sorry for him. He most probably means well, but his is a job which is just too big and too much for him.
     
  14. Daninho777

    Daninho777 Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    That's the thing though, no manager that is qualified wants to take the team. That is why they resorted to Scaloni. Argentina should be trying everything in their power to get Gallardo to take the national team. Simeone would be ideal but I think he is out reach.
     
  15. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Japan 1 x 0 !

    Perfect move ... got the defender committed with that quick inside move ... and good finish.
     
  16. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Japan up by one. Didn't see that coming.
    Nice goal
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's 100% not a PK. Better not be.
     
  18. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Well ... it is. :ROFLMAO:
     
  19. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    VAR is trash. They didn't review when the Japanese guy went down in the box 3 minutes earlier. The idea of VAR is great, but it is being used horribly.
     
  20. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    and more absolute garbage from VAR and these stupid penalty calls.

    Cavani gets a PK for kicking a Japanese player.

    This is downright ludicrous. They are trying their best to destroy this sport.

    I have at least 3 BS penalty calls so far in this tournament, WITH VAR.
     
  21. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I guess I missed it, but even on the replay I did not see a penalty.
     
  22. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Like my man Amrabat from Morocco said last WC

    "VAR is bullshi%"

    It is used so selectively, and there is absolutely no consistency in how it is used.

    At first I loved the idea of it, but now I think it is a frankenstein monster that is making football a sick joke, and I am honestly losing interest. Its not about who beat who anymore, its about who wins the lottery on a dodgy VAR penalty.
     
  23. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    As a huge fan of Conmebol it's embarrassing.
     
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  24. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    :thumbsdown:
    This is the main problem. It doesn't help that certain teams end up getting more of the benefit either. Uruguay doesn't need help to beat Japan for christ's sake. Can't wait to see how VAR is used in Argentina/Qatar. [​IMG]
     
  25. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Is this really the same team that lost to Chile 4-0 a few days ago? What a difference! HT.
     

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