It might take a while since KFTPM continue even if a team falls below seven players after the first five are sent off for two cautions.
One possibility is the keeper runs out as fast as she can, takes out the kicker trying to take the ball off the striker's foot. Texas High School used to use those kicks and I saw a couple of keepers try that strategy. Fortunately there weren't any injuries in the games I saw, but that was because most districts in our area were ok with ties.
I did think that Umpierrez called a good match between England and Japan. Like how she stopped play when she kicked the ball away from the Japan MF inadvertently.
I just tried to explain to my wife exactly what happened in the Scotland-Argentina game. My wife watches a fair amount of soccer with me (both on TV and when our son plays), but she was completely not getting what was going on. This VAR stuff on penalty kicks is an absolute mockery.
They are in a tough spot. They made a calculated decision to have VARs be super strict on GK movement--with a completely predictable result--because they wanted to change behavior. Very difficult to make that change back midstream, but it would be less absurd than continuing with it. And for those who say it's all on the keeper, go try to stop a @#$%#ing PK. And then after you've done it for 15 years, try to completely change how you do it on short notice. Implementing this as a radical change at the WC may be the most farcical thing that FIFA/IFAB have ever done--and that's ahigh barrier.
Under the current approach the ball could be kicked directly at the GK's head and he/she might not react in time. I think players at this level would adjust and if a GK came out too fast, they would be chipped for an easy goal. I've not seen any injury in Ice Hockey which has a similar approach to penalty shootouts. It doesn't matter, what does is that the current system does not work. If VAR were really applied to the max, every free kick into the box would result in a PK because of holding or pushing. There has to be a ballance.
Well, that was partly my point, too, but I was told I was naive and delusional to think anyone would change anything on account of some women's matches. My point was what's going to happen when this happens in the men's World Cup to England, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy etc? But the Referee Gods Busacca and Collina have sent down their Commandments from the Mountain so I guess we should just shut up.
Apples and oranges, my friend. You were delusional about the OS issue--not a new application at all, but something absolutely routine in games all the time. Not even something that those who follow this stuff blinked at. The PK enforcement is totally different--a completely new kind of absurd enforcement that has sucked the life out of many games.
oh my God, what's happening at Big Soccer when even referees are taking the names of Collina and Busacca in vain?
The problem is that there should have been four minutes before the VAR intervened. We should have had a total of at least 10 minutes. How on earth can you justify full time at 95 when the VAR process is almost 7 minutes between the two incidents.
I don't see how they can. In 2018 WC, only us true referee nerds who payed super close attention could see that they made a tweak to the standard in which the VAR got involved. This is so public and in your face that the entire world will see when this all of a sudden stops getting called in the knockout stages.
To actually talk about the referee, the referee in SCO-ARG was really not good. No control of the game or players. The players did not respect her at all. All game, her person-management was not received by the players. The SCO players harassing the kicker on the PK should not have happened. Really poor. Add the VAR stuff and that match was a joke.
Yes. Definitely apples and oranges. Hell, they aren’t both even fruit. The offside interpretation has been around or evolving like this for a decade or more and despite some having philosophical issues, it’s working fine. We don’t need to beat that dead horse again but there’s no way that own goal changes things. And it’s not just the women’s game—if that exact goal happened in the WC, nothing would change. Actually now that I think about it, in the 2006 WC didn’t the US concede a goal like that to Italy? An own goal scored because the defender prevented the ball from going to an attacker in a clear offside position? This is not new. At all. But the PK encroachment thing is the perfect storm. Add the automatic caution, amend the rule, demand rigid enforcement and subject it to VAR. It’s four changes nearly all at once (actually over the course of 12 months, but close enough). And 3 of the 4 changes, no one seems to want. The U20s should have been enough to fix this but unfortunately the WWC started before that tournament ended. UEFA is laughing at this and is ignoring it at the U21s, with some of the same VARs that went to the U20. This will die. I’m pretty confident in that. But I also think FIFA is stuck for this tournament. How do you not enforce this in the knockout stages now when enforcement effectively knocked out Scotland?
Point. But I disagree. You see a lot of referees even here at BigSoccer unhappy that goals like M'Bock-Bathy's against So Korea called back. Are you happy with it? Players can only judge onside/offside with their eyes and guess what? They have their eyes in their head and not in their feet. Isn't there something in the laws or interpretation about benefit of the doubt going to the attacker? Well that's (presumably) removed by VAR - so something's changed in the game, hasn't it? The bottom line is there are a handful of people who shrug off goals like M'Bock-Bathys but want to keep goals like the own goal by Brazil when Australia was in an offside position and actively playing the ball by any normal person's definition. But it's more important to some (not all) referees to make sure the rules are "objective" in such a way they can't be blamed for a call, that they're above reproach. The referee's need to defend their decisions has become more important than what the game is to players or to fans. We have a problem.
Even without the PK fiasco, Ri Hyang was awful. Scotland's #10 Crichton had some terrible tackles in first half which should've seen yellow. One of them I thought the good folks here at Big Soccer might call worthy of a red. Just before Argentina mounted their comeback, their player Laroquette scissored Cuthbert from behind. I thought Argentina should've been down to ten. But it would've been inconsistent with how Ri was calling the game. She wasn't protecting the players from harsh tackles whatsoever.
So are the powers that be sitting around hoping that either Cameroon or NZ (or I suppose Chile) win by enough that they would have passed Scotland if the PK had not been retaken? (Aside: Fox is showing Argentina as in 4th place but eliminated--unless my math really sucks, they still go through with the right draws tomorrow)
You're right. If Chile/Thailand and New Zealand/Cameroon draw, then they'd all have a point and Argentina goes through with two.
Umpierrez is in a very good spot now. Two games (including the opener), no cards, no penalty/VAR drama, hardly anyone talking about her. If her knockout game goes well, I'd bet on her for the Final.
The referees who work high level men's matches in their home country really stand out as being on a different level. If Umpierrez can handle Uruguayan first division matches, then this is probably a walk in the park for her. Of course it's also a chicken/egg thing since you need to be good enough to get to that level in your country.
Agreed. Though she could have been on a decisive match with a late penalty and been forced by the VAR to card the keeper. If that had happened, I think she wouldn't be in as good a position as she is now.