Copa America 2019

Discussion in 'Copa America 2019' started by Danko, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    Anyone know the tiebreaker if goal differential is the same? Most goals for, or least goals given up?
     
  2. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    hands dont count on offsides
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I have said this in many threads in many different forums.
    If a Defender raises his hand in the area near his head he only has himself to blame for a penalty. Especially now with VAR you are not going to get the benefit of the doubt. Keep your hands low or behind you.
     
  4. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    VAR has definitely revolutionized the sport.
    it will take time to adjust but i think it is fair at the end of the day.
     
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  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Most goals for.
     
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  6. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hands from goalies should :ROFLMAO:
     
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  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    In some ways I agree with this but rules are rules.
    The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered when making an offside decision as the law stands (at this moment).

    Maybe in the future they would include any part that can be legally touched which would make keeper hands something to keep players onside. But it obviously would have to be in the Box.
     
  8. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    It is being overused. I don't mind it being used for clear and obvious calls but it is used for such minimal errors like a bloody shoulder offside, where even Venezuela don't protest.
     
  9. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I did not want Brazil to tie last night, but I agree. If the goals were indeed offside, the fair and just call was for the goals to be disallowed. A reason this is getting a bit of controversy is that the exact same thing occurred in the match vs. Peru.

    If anything, VAR aside, Venezuela deserves credit. They are far from being a World Cup contender, but they have improved dramatically from where they were just a few years ago. Drawing Brazil in Brazil and defeating Argentina in neutral ground is not too bad for a team that was for very long taken for granted as a "will be defeated" opponent.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Don't have to keep your hands behind you anymore (as of 1 June). If they are hanging next to your body naturally, VAR will let it go.
     
  11. Zbagint

    Zbagint New Member

    Nov 9, 2018
    I was watching on ESPN+ and they didn't seem to understand what happened at all. I honestly wasn't sure either. I thought the guy that stuck his hand out might have hit the ball.
     
  12. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It was difficult to see the ball come off Firmino from most camera angles. When I first saw the play and I asked myself "what could possibly be wrong with that goal?". But the camera angle from behind the net made the deflection quite obvious (not sure if that angle was shown on espn(?)).
     
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  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    On Venezuela, results show that their improvement actually happened a while ago. Around 2007 there was a noticeable upgrade. They almost qualified for the 2010 World cup but messed up at home against Paraguay near the end of qualifying. But that was still an impressive run against, what I would argue, were stronger CONMEBOL teams overall (compared to now).

    Lately I think they have regressed, but have taken advantage against historically weak sides put out by Brasil and Argentina. Lets be honest, even Qatar could beat Argentina right now.
     
  14. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Did yall hear that Conmebol has some old Video system that is causing everything to be delayed
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Even so, you don't want it in the hands of the refs (no pun intended) if you put your hand near your face or head and it hits your hand.
    They are not going to give you the benefit of the doubt most of the time.
     
  16. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    Anyone impressed with that Almoez Ali guy from Qatar? I was definitely impressed with his game and Qatar in general. Think Paraguay was lucky to win that one.
     
  17. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Sudanese of origin. Forward and top scorer at the Asian Cup. Him and Akram Afif are their 2 top players.
     
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  18. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    Yeah very impressed. It will be interesting to see how he does against Colombia, as they are IMO the toughest backline to crack.
     
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If people are pissed already with VAR ... just waiting till they see VAR applied to GK off the line early on PKs. Already being used in women's WC.
     
  20. Felix Herve Caroll

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Ivory Coast
    I'm impressed Qatar has been tougher than I expected.
     
  21. Zbagint

    Zbagint New Member

    Nov 9, 2018
    It'll be interesting to see how much stoppage time this Colombia/Qatar game has. I'm 100% in favor of VAR, but some of these refs are taking forever to to go to it and aren't adding appropriate stoppage time for all the delays. I think that handball review actually took about 4 minutes.
     
  22. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Those Qataris, bless their hearts: complaining to the ref even after he took back a penalty+YC against Qatar.
    It is like they wanted an apology from the Venezuelan referee.

    Interesting how players can force a VAR review, if they complain hard enough.
    That referee won't be officiating games in later stages.
     
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  23. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This ref is simply terrible....please don't let him ref any other game in this tournament.
     
  24. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That's game. Qatar trying to start shit again. Get the ******** out of our tournament you bitches. Learn to handle a loss and when you're being beaten by a better team.

    Seriously, they need to change their attitude for the Conf. Cup and the World cup if they're going to be decent hosts like Russia.
     
  25. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Qatar came to fight :ROFLMAO:
     
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