AOC = HRC 2.0

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  1. Moishe

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    You guys really need to stop with all the golf talk or else @superdave will be forced to open a Presidential golf thread.
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    FORE!
     
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  3. xtomx

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    No, I was pointing out that primary variable was education level.

    There are not nearly as many jobs at the high school level education in the public sector, so of course they would be paid better.

    Same at the doctorate level.

    Also, they looked at median salaries, ignoring the ridiculous upside in the private sector at the top echelon, as opposed to the public sector.
     
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  4. JohnR

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    Government jobs tend to pay high grads well, college grads meh, and those with grad degrees chicken feed. They are The Great Equalizer.
     
  5. Funkfoot

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    Most of the high school level jobs are being outsourced to contractors. So they get paid less and have worse benefits, but taxpayer money is saved. Decide for yourself whether that is a good thing.
     
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  6. JohnR

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    It's good for those in high tax brackets. As with every economic change that has occurred over the past 40 years.
     
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  7. ceezmad

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    It would depend on the job performance.

    Is the service being provided is worse, then is bad, if it is similar quality then it is better.

    The Government duty is to provide services, not to guarantee jobs (well that may change). So if the government can provide the same service at lower cost it should.
     
  8. ceezmad

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    Government wages are like MLS with out the DPs and allocation money, they have max salary caps and higher minimums.

    The private sector is more like La Liga, the little guys in the little teams get shit, but the R.M. and Barca stars get tons of money.
     
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  9. JohnR

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    That strikes me as a good analogy.
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

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    170k is really not that much. Of course, the position does open up lots of other opportunities for creating wealth.
     
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  11. dapip

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  12. ceezmad

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    I hope that this "eye contact" is more real that that Republican that stared at "immigrant" children on a bus and saw their fear.


    Later turned out it was just a regular school bus from some middle school.


    Maybe we sense what we want to sense when we "look" at other people in the eye.
     
  13. soccernutter

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    They are being outsourced to ostensibly save the government money. That typically means lower wages and fewer employed.
     
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    So guilt is in the eye of the starer not the staree?

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  15. ceezmad

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    And lower benefits (if any).
     
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  16. dapip

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  17. soccernutter

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  18. Naughtius Maximus

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    It didn't take long for someone to post this in the original thread...

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    That also refers to this...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_concentration_camps

    Of course, those and the British ones were some 100+ years ago and I'd like to think we'd moved ahead slightly since then but, bluntly, it's a continuing problem in most developed countries...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarl's_Wood_Immigration_Removal_Centre

    Obviously that's a detention centre prior to likely removal but I'd hope that what's happening in the states doesn't happen here... at least, not as a matter of course.
     
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  19. soccernutter

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    Yeah, the Brits are kinda pioneers of concentration camps.
     
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  20. ceezmad

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    Right, I was about to post this, you can refer them as concentration camps with out going all holocaust.

    Japanese escapements were concentration camps, Native Americans were put in concentration camps before.

    People will hear or make up dog whistles as it suits their narrative.
     
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  21. song219

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    All death camps are concentration camps but not all concentration camps are death camps.
     
  22. dapip

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    That's something the should teach at every Nazi school...
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  24. Naughtius Maximus

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  25. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    #2200 song219, Jun 18, 2019
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