MLS to expand to 30 teams. $200 Million expansion fee.

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by CMeszt, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    He's looking for evidence that allowing teams to bring in more DPs equates to an increase in TV ratings and revenue. There is, of course, evidence that bringing in certain players can result in a TV bump, but let's say the LA Galaxy is allowed to bring a 4th DP on par with Zlatan's popularity. Will that result in a corresponding jump in TV ratings for the Galaxy, or will the ratings stay the same?
     
  2. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Oh YEAHH?-
    Oh. yeah.
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    TV money is going to increase dramatically in 2022 as the networks face competition from streaming services.
     
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  4. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Jul 16, 2017
    Theres a lot bad about Disney that is way beyond the scope of this thread. That said, I always thought 'Mickey Mouse' referred to childish but I never bothered asking any of the trolls.
     
  5. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

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    It just a saying I wouldn't read too much into it.
    Just like people call others "Einstein" or "Sherlock" to mean dumb.
    Nimrod is another one. Nimrod was a mighty hunter mentioned a couple times in the Bible. Some say its negative meaning came from a Bugs Bunny episode where he calls Elmer Fudd, who is a hunter, "poor little Nimrod." They think others not really knowing the reference started using it as an insult.
    https://unrememberedhistory.com/201...-bunny-changed-the-meaning-of-a-word-forever/
     
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  6. STR1

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    May 29, 2010
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    Only one way to find out, no?

    footballfantatic does have a point but....do you increase spending in hope of better TV deals and more audience or you wait for a better TV deal and more audience to spend more? Which brings up another dilemma, if you are a TV Network would you invest more money on a product that is not so popular right now?
     
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  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    Arvada, CO
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    No, not if there's other evidence from past actions of what's likely to happen. There are other ways of figuring it out, there are people who literally make careers out of things like that.
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.. We can look at the impact to MLS's TV ratings when they added the 2nd and 3rd DPs. If there was a significant spike during that time frame, that could indicate there is some merit to the idea. However, if there isn't a spike, that's probably a good indicator that adding a 4th won't have significant impact on ratings.
     
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  9. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

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  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The thing with making MLS slightly better on the field is that I don't see why that would move the needle in the ratings department. When you can see Barcelona every week, MLS becoming as good as Liga MX doesn't really impress you.
     
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  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    Stadium news in Raleigh:

     
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  12. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
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    May 29, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    So was there a spike or rating were still bad?
     
  13. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
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    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Well then what could move that needle if making MLS better won't do it? I understand that the best soccer leagues are in Europe but how do you explain the other countries that prefer to watch their own domestic league over the best leagues in the world, i.e. Liga MX?
     
  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Tradition. Only time will make MLS more popular. And obviously the league is expected to be getting better as time passes. It's just that there is no silver bullet for it.

    Alternately they can invest bazillions and try to become the undisputed best league in the world like the NBA and NHL. However that is more likely to bankrupt them than achieve ratings goals.
     
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  15. STR1

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    Atlanta United
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    May 29, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    If it's tradition then we won't be around to see it pan out. We are talking about generations. Your kids, my kids and their children's children following MLS because their fathers and grandfathers followed MLS similar to how other leagues work. And that is if Liga MX and EPL don't keep on growing in popularity because if they do then that will keep on interfering with the growth and popularity of MLS in the US.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    Traditions happen quickly in the States:

    "After the success of the Cold War at Michigan State University in 2001 and the 2003 Heritage Classic, the NHL's first regular season outdoor game, the league inaugurated the Winter Classic in 2008. It eventually caught on as an annual tradition for the league" - Wikipedia
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    Thems the breaks
     
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  18. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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  19. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
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    Chicago Fire
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    A 25 year old fan that had a child during MLS’ inaugural season could well have a 23 child right now that grew up watching the league and may have children of their own that they pass the tradition of MLS fandom down to. So, it’s already panning out right now in front of our eyes.
     
  20. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
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    May 29, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Too bad that doesn't happen quickly in MLS.
     
  21. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    United States
    Yep, that's how it works. But think of what we could leave for future generations of soccer fans.
     
  22. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
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    Owners' ambitions may not match fans' and/or field-personnel's ambitions in any given season, or series of seasons.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    The phrase "Mickey Mouse" refers to the character, not the organization that created him. Mickey is/was a bit of a buffoon. The phrase simply means amateurish.
     
  24. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    They should have gone with Goofy instead.
     
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  25. PTFC in KCMO

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    I’d say Donald Duck. But I’m an Oregon fan
     
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