Rebooted USWNT Thread

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Kyle Crew, May 18, 2019.

  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Passing it around the back sounds like a decent idea.
     
  2. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, how many would the US have scored if we had included all the supposedly better players who didn't make the team?
     
  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    There is no possible way of knowing, so it's pointless to ask the question.

    It's likely that they'd have scored fewer.
     
  4. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    Yeah they would have had some class.
     
  5. Dr.Fever

    Dr.Fever Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 19, 2018
    They are scoring WORLD CUP GOALS, and you want them to NOT celebrate? They have been working towards this for FOUR YEARS. Good on our ladies to come out of the gate and EXPLODE. I wish I could have the same respect for the USMNT or my club at the moment.

    Being from OHIO, I'll recall a time where Chris Spielman while in the NFL was regaled in a story where the NFL team he played for at the time was getting wrecked. He was over on the sideline yelling at the opponent's coaches to keep bringing it. He felt that if his team could not stop what they were doing, then why would that team stop doing it?

    You don't embarrass the opponent further by NOT playing the game and forcing them to stop you. Step it up. This is WC, not a scrimmage.

    #$%^&. Get over it snowflakes. They don't hand out participation trophies at this level.
     
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  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT BETTER.

    It would be good if they acted like they've been there before after, oh, about the 5th.

    OH MY GOD NO WAI!!!!

    This doesn't even make sense in context.

    Being from Ohio, I have no idea what that has to do with this.

    Pretty sure Thailand was embarrassed either way.

    What does this have to do with anything?

    What I'm more concerned about is that they learned absolutely jack ********ing shit from this game. The idiot brigade on FS1 will say how "sharp" they were, which is laughable against such awful opposition. And based on the last 30 minutes or so that I watched, only Morgan was actually anything approaching "sharp" - the rest of them looked pretty sloppy actually, and that shit ain't happening against someone halfway competent/mentally prepared.
     
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  7. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol what?
     
  8. Dr.Fever

    Dr.Fever Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 19, 2018
    I guess it boils down to what class weren't they showing? The celebrations were all with the teammates. Everyone wants Lloyd, Press, and Pugh to come in and not try to get more playing time? Play down instead of playing at their highest level?
     
  9. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What?

    Spain beat Tahiti 10:0 in the Confed Cup in 2013. The Spanish players barely reacted to any of the goals.

    Not showing up the other team is usually a good idea.
     
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  10. Dr.Fever

    Dr.Fever Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 19, 2018
    To each their own I guess. None of the three woman anchors on FOX had any issue with it whatsoever. Stupidface Lalas either. All of them I believe WC participants? Only dissent was from Rob Stone. Not a WC participant?
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Is this meant to be an endorsement?

    This is the clearest sign YOU are on the wrong path. If Lalas thinks it's OK, it's probably not.

    NONE of them have been on the wrong side of a double-digit beatdown as professionals.

    Note how Rob Stone was left out of the nightly wrap-up show (the parts I watched, anyway).
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, I have absolutely zero problem with being ruthless assassins. This is the World Freaking Cup. They only come every four years. Be clinical. Don't let up. Play the whole match. I get it. All of it.

    But to celebrate like you just hit a game 7, walk-off grand slam after every goal against inferior competition -- come on.
     
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  13. Dan Milton

    Dan Milton Member

    Nov 25, 1998
    The Thailand team was extremely poor and should not have been there. There was no joy or honor in beating a team that bad!!! Of course FIFA should not have let a soccer federation with such poor teams to be allowed into the tournament!
     
  14. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #IToo
     
  16. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's called having some class.

    I always remember Brian McBride hitting a PK late in a game we were already winning 2-0. He slotted it past the keeper, turned, and trotted back upfield. No racing to the flag, no kissing his ring finger, no doggie pile of jubilation. There was a penalty, it was his job to take it, but rubbing someone's face in it just wasn't his idea of behaving professionally.

    Late in the game yesterday, Carli Lloyd stillhadn't scored. She missed on a good chance and the utter anguish on her face was painful, which they emphasized with a long, slow motion closeup. She continued to push until she finally did score, at the 90+2 mark when the score was 12-0 and the opponent was utterly humiliated.

    Massive celebration, hugging, dancing, waving to the crowd.

    A disgraceful performance.

    As has been said, you don't have to play keep away for 30 minutes or something. That's pretty disrespectful too. But to celebrate scoring goal #13 in extra time like you just beat Barcelona for the Champions league is mind blowingly rude.
     
  17. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    People really are losing their shit over this on both sides.

    Ray Hudson (lol) on SiriusXM this morning said it was a horrible advertisement for women's football and he didn't enjoy a minute of it. (LOLOLOL).

    You have people putting together threads on twitter of men's team's celebrating goals with air guitar celebrations when up 6 or 7-1 versus Wigan.

    A few things here....

    The gulf in talent between Chelsea and Wigan is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the gulf in talent between the USWNT and Thailand.

    Because goal differential is tie breaker the USWNT should go for every goal possible.

    It's difficult for me to flex and scream "USA USA!!!" victory over inferior competition when it's clear that the USWNT has significantly more resources than nearly all their competition at the Women's World Cup, and surely more than Thailand. This article/survey shows A LOT of that disparity....

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/07/sports/soccer/world-cup-survey.html

    Questions of sportsmanship come up in men's sports from high school through college through the pros. In *most* cases these questions of sportsmanship are not driven by sexism or a hatred for the US team.

    Maybe the most comparable situation when looking at US Men's sports compared to the USWNT was when USA Basketball started sending pro players to the Olympics. They too were celebrated. They too were accused of running up the score. They too were accused of bad sporstmanship. And when the rest of the world caught up with the US, or we sent a team that was just in a down cycle, people criticized, lost interest, or turned on what the perceived as arrogance from the men.

    This is big time sports. This is the stage that the women wanted. Criticism is part of the game at this stage. And for those whining that the criticism is too harsh, I would just say it's a helluva lot better than apathy.
     
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  18. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hang. You still surprise me every once in a while.
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Kum-ba-yaaaa my Lord...

    Can I steal large parts of this post?
     
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  20. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'd be honored....
     
  21. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Share it with your WhatsApp group...
     
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  22. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I don't use ZuckMessage.
     
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  23. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly my feeling. Absolutely no issue with scoring as many goals as you can but celebrate with class.
     
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  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ive actually heard very little complaint about the score. It is what it is, although I will admit that for the last 10-15 minutes the US looked like sharks in a feeding frenzy, and it was uncomfortable to watch. Crushing someone's soul is never pretty, and doing it with that level of glee is disconcerting. Score your goals, do your job. If youre the best, act like it.

    My other point though is that the whole thing is a result of FIFA greed and stupidity. Theres no way this should be a 24 team tournament. There arent 24 teams genuinely able to compete.

    And Thailand is ranked # 34 in the world. They got in fair and square, yes, but the format and the draw dumped them into a game they had no business in. Sure the 32 team mens tourney always tosses in a North Korea or New Zealand for ritual slaughter, but the gap between #1 and #32 on the mens side, while huge, is nowhere near as deep as the gulf between their counterparts on the womens side.

    FIFA says its so that more teams can get the experience ( read: money) but really its so that the tournament provides more games for TV. So there'll always be somebody getting tossed into a shredder.
     
  25. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This is the best take.
     
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