2019 CL/2020 CCL qualifiers [R]

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  1. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    #76 Paul Calixte, May 19, 2019
    Last edited: May 20, 2019
    Monterrey's title defense died prematurely: the Rayados tied Tigres 1-1 on aggregate in the Liga MX Clausura semifinal with no away goals scored, so Tigres move on thanks to their superior regular season record.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV1 or SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC1]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC2]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
     
  2. Paul Calixte

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    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    For anyone keeping score at home, that's now twice that the Caribbean semi-pro champs have knocked off their professional counterparts to make the continental stage.

    As well, IIRC it's the first time that a Surinamese side have qualified for Concacaf in the CCL era.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV1 or SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC1]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC2]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    It is. CFU reps have come from, in no particular order:

    - Trinidad and Tobago
    - Jamaica
    - Martinique
    - Puerto Rico
    - Guyana
    - Haiti
    - Dominican Republic
     
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  4. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile, in Central America...

    Guatemala: Malacateco stunned Cobán Imperial, knocking them out in their own house to reach the Final. There, they will face Antigua for the last CL berth, while Comunicaciones are guaranteed in as the best runner-up in the full-year table.

    El Salvador: And now for something slightly different, a final without one of Santa Tecla or Alianza :D the latter will face Águila for the Clausura title and the country's highest seed in the CL.

    Honduras: The final will be a rematch of the clásico capitalino that we got in the Apertura. Olimpia are ahead in the full-year table, but need the Clausura title if they want the top seed. Meanwhile, with all eventual champs and runners-up accounted for, Honduras' final berth should fall down the full-year table to Marathón.

    Nicaragua: Another rematch from the Apertura final in this tournament, with Managua FC set to face Real Estelí. Here, though, Managua has the Apertura belt and top spot in the full-year table, so the seeds are set.

    To keep us on the same page, we're just missing the following qualifiers:

    CCL - Everyone from the US and Canada

    CL - 2 teams from Panama, 1 from Guatemala and 1 from Canada

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC1]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC2]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1 or SLV3]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
     
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  5. Robert Borden

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    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Can someone give me a summary of what was said in this clip?
     
  6. Paul Calixte

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    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    Palomo was pressing Montagliani on if Concacaf sees it as an issue that CCL finals tend to be all-Mexican, even in light of Mexico's superior development and resources.

    Montagliani acknowledged that it was generally (mind you, not always) the case in the past, but that the new format has been in place for only two years - one of which did not produce an all-Mexican final - and ostensibly provides more opportunities for non-Mexican sides to advance in the tournament.

    ---

    Any opinion on what to take from the new format is premature, a discussion probably best left for 2022; it's just curious that the last 2 CCL draws gave us balanced brackets, and we have yet to see one with > 2 Mexican sides on the same half of the bracket, which would increase the possibility of a non-Mexican side reaching the Final.
     
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  7. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Confirmed:

     
  8. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    York 9 defeats AS Blainville 1-0. Advances against FC Edmonton
     
  10. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Cavalry wins 2-1 over Pacific (4-1 aggregate) and advance to meet Forge FC
     
  11. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Concacaf published an update on the Concacaf League with their list of qualifiers, so let's check our work...

    18/18! :D

    The one thing I did get wrong was completely sleeping on San Carlos, who finished above Herediano in the full-year table - thus entering the Concacaf League as the highest seed among Costa Rican sides.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1 or SLV3]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
     
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  12. Paul Calixte

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    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last night, Independiente outlasted Árabe Unido...







    ...and then talked smack afterwards :ROFLMAO:



    San Francisco will host Tauro in the second leg of the other semifinal tonight - and if Tauro can knock out the monjes, they'll lock down their country's top seed.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1 or SLV3]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
    19. CA Independiente [PAN2 or PAN3]
     
  13. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV1 or SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1 or SLV3]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
    19. CA Independiente [PAN2 or PAN3]
    20. San Francisco [PAN1 or PAN3]
     
  14. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More updates out of Central America, as Antigua and Águila won their respective leagues this afternoon. Now just waiting for the finals in Honduras, Panama and Canada to round out our CL list.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX2 or MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2 or MEX4]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON3]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
    19. CA Independiente [PAN2 or PAN3]
    20. San Francisco [PAN1 or PAN3]
    21. Antigua GFC [GUA2]
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tigres took the Clausura title to add to their impressive domestic collection over the last decade...and seeing what Concacaf did with SKC this season, we have to presume that they'll stick to their guns and condemn León to the lower pot for the next CCL draw based on the five-year coefficient for their seed.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN2]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON2]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
    19. CA Independiente [PAN2 or PAN3]
    20. San Francisco [PAN1 or PAN3]
    21. Antigua GFC [GUA2]
     
  16. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    CONCACAF League qualifiers

    Forge FC vs. FC Edmonton is tonight
     
  17. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Forge FC wins 2-0 over FC Edmonton
    Screenshot_20190529-232126_Chrome.jpg
     
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  18. slaminsams

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    Why is participation limited to those three teams and not everyone? It looks like Cavalry FC is currently top of the table in the Canadian Premier League.
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

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    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    "The original founding members" or some bullshit. There isn't a good answer.
     
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  20. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Because the CSA are idiots. Those 3 are the founding members of CPL (a year ahead of the other 4). In their stupidity, they imposed that idiotic idea on the league.
     
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  21. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Out in Panama, la Chorrera "roommates" San Francisco and Independiente brought an impressive crowd to the Rommel Fernández in Panama City, and the Final more than made it up to them: two goals in the last five minutes of injury time, before Independiente claimed their second-ever league title on penalties.

    2020 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Cruz Azul [MEX3]
    2. Club América [MEX1]
    3. Club León [MEX4]
    4. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU1]
    5. Tigres UANL [MEX2]

    2019 CL Qualifiers

    1. Tauro [PAN1]
    2. CD Guastatoya [GUA1]
    3. Managua FC [NCA1]
    4. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON2]
    6. Herediano [CRC2]
    7. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC3]
    8. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
    9. Alianza [SLV3]
    10. Olimpia [HON1 or HON2]
    11. Waterhouse FC (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. AD San Carlos [CRC1]
    13. AS Capoise (HAI) [CFU3]
    14. SV Robinhood (SUR) [CFU4]
    15. Comunicaciones [GUA3]
    16. Águila [SLV1]
    17. Marathón [HON3]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA2]
    19. CA Independiente [PAN2]
    20. San Francisco [PAN3]
    21. Antigua GFC [GUA2]
     
  22. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Valour FC defeats FC Edmonton 1-0. Forge is almost assured to represent Canada at CONCACAF League. Screenshot_20190603-075108_Chrome.jpg
     
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  23. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To wit: when Forge host Valour on June 15, they'll just need one point to guarantee CL qualification.
     
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  24. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I guess as a small consolation...Forge is truly playing almost as good as Cavalry are and are only 2 points behind them so far.

    Right now, it's Cavalry & Forge followed by Valour....then the rest
     
  25. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I have to ask, now that things are clearer: assuming Forge get the job done, @Robert Borden what do you think is the easiest path to the CCL? Going through 3 MLS teams in the Voyageurs' Cup, or 3 Guatemalan/Honduran sides in the CL?

    Nevertheless, even if they eventually fall against Olimpia, the experience gained will be invaluable, ensuring that Canadians are familiar with hostile road conditions early on in their career and thus avoiding deer-in-the-headlights performances like in 2012 - the same way that several Central American and Caribbean sides playing CCL matches in Mexico has contributed to national teams all over the region losing their fear of playing there.
     

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