Rumor: The Coming <soft> Rebrand

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  1. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I’d rather we keep the US Open Cup streak alive and go back to adding to it rather than hiding from it.
     
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  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Far from a dumb idea, that is the least worst idea so far and what I think will actually happen, if anything.
     
  3. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I think it would be ridiculous to name this club "Hull City AFC." ;)

    All of those names in the article suck. I mean, really suck. Water Tower FC? The Towermen? Vomit-inducing. Why tip toe around the name "Fire?" Stick with it or move on to something else. A half ass pseudo-Fire makes no sense. Those you have not yet reached won't have a clue about what you are trying to do, and will be left with the idea that you just want to name your team after a place to take selfies while a tourist in Chicago, and the old supporters of the Fire will just snicker at the stupidity of not being the Fire, but sort of being Fire-lite.
     
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  4. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Totally agree about the lame ass names! This sentence from the article told me all that I needed to know about the writer's knowledge regarding our current situation.

    “And the Fire’s struggle to remain relevant in a crowded sports market is most closely related to the location of their current home, SeatGeek Stadium, a good way beyond the reach of the ‘L’ train system, let alone the city center where the younger people likely to attend matches live, work and play.”

    The current lease at SeatGeek Stadium is an issue. The location is not the main reason for the Fire's struggles. The primary reason is management of the club. Nelson Rodriguez is the absolute primary reason for the Chicago Fire being a non-entity in the Chicagoland market. How N-Rod is able to slide through without any accountability is beyond me. Does no one writing about the business status of the team get this? It is total bullsh*t to blame our current problems on Bridgeview. The way N-Rod has run this team, a soccer specific stadium in the heart of Wrigleyville would have the same issues as the current team. Nothing will change until N-Rod is long gone from Chicago. The damage that he has done will be very difficult to recover from.
     
  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hull City AFC would make as much sense as "Water Tower FC."

    I think, if there is a "soft rebrand," then it will be something like Chicago FC, with the nickname of the "The Fire."

    I agree that it is not a great idea.
    I agree that it will do nothing to "reach people" the team has not reached.

    However, I think it is less dumb than any of the names tossed out (not just vomit inducing, but he seems to have "vomited out" the idiotic names) in the article.
     
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  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I agree with all of this of course (I created the Nelson Rodriguez Career Death Thread within hours of his hiring for good reason).

    However, I think the damage is easily recoverable.
    1) Have a good team.
    2) Have a competent coach.
    3) Promote the crap out of the team.

    Items one and two are clearly at the foot of Nelson 'shady' Rodriguez.

    As for No. 3, the fact that he went and alienated the crap out of the fanbase (yes, I am a "Wallower"), especially Sector Latino and Section 8, was horrific.

    If the team is located in Chicago proper (especially on the Lakefront), that helps 3 to a degree.

    As for Bridgeview, I think we are ALL in consensus that Bridgeview is A problem, but nowhere near THE problem with the Fire. If everything else was great, it would not be even be A problem.
     
  7. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Seems like the rumor mill had mostly settled on the fact that the team shitcanned the idea of a full name change though. I haven't seen much to contradict that around the interwebs in the last month.
     
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  8. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I think I'd seen similar. It'd mean the rent has already doubled if that's true. It'd break $1M/year after season 20.

    A drop in the bucket compared to some of the nightmare rates AEG was paying for the MetroStars back in the day, but still, an incentive for them to bail out while they can.
     
  9. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EDIT- wait, reading the article, this is just a list from some guy rather than something official from the club? Engineers Chicago FC has to the dumbest thing ever...
     
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  10. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yeah, not sure why so many people freaked out about it.

    Catering to the untapped Terre Haute expat fan base. [​IMG]
     
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, it is some random writer from Baltimore who writes about baseball and soccer.
     
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  12. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So after the game tonight I received an email from the team to answer questions about how I feel about the team's crest, name, and colors. So it seems a rebrand is definitely coming.
     
  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I just received the same.
     
  14. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don’t care what I think, but I already sent a letter to Nrod and Mansueto with my thoughts.
     
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  15. Yeah...me too.

    I told them what in think about a possible rebrand.
     
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  16. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It's not. Needs to be a unanimous vote on a rebrand. Mansueto is firmly on the "no" side. That's 49%. We're safe. I hope.
     
  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but Andi has 51% :eek:
     
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  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    How do you know this?
     
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  19. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also got the email and when they asked what one thing would I want to change about the brand I replied nothing, just get some great players and win.
     
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  20. rooked

    rooked Member+

    Jan 21, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I got the same - I said: don't change the name, the crest, or the colors - just improve the relationship between the loyal fan base and the front office
     
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  21. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I told them to change the majority owner.
     
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  22. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I'm a journalist, I have sources now. It's from someone who's closer to the front office side than the locker room side of the club.
     
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  23. moleman

    moleman Member

    Jan 7, 2017
    Screenshot / cliff notes of this email for those of us deemed unworthy by ownership to provide our thoughts?
     
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  24. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So someone on Reddit can vouch for you?
     
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  25. To view this email as a web page, click here.
    Chicago Fire Soccer Club

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    Dear J,

    As a valued member of the Chicago Fire Soccer Club community, we're interested in your perspective on the club's brand identity. We'd appreciate a few minutes of your time to fill out the following survey (eight total questions) on the club's name, crest, colors and brand story.

    The survey should take 3-5 minutes to complete.


    CLICK HERE TO TAKE THE SURVEY
     
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