Atletico Nacional

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I wacthed the match with my 2 good friends of nacional and was funny
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The 2nd goal was bad... he totally killed Palacios.

    Fact either of Nacional wingbacks get called up blows my mind. The game was awful to watch. Also how are we going to host a WC if we can’t keep the lights on in one of our biggest stadiums.
     
  3. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Thats bullshit, it happens everywhere... even in USA at big events

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    A system overload can happen anywhere, and it is not like it happens every year in Medellín or Big cities.

    Except where Electricaribe works because they suck.
     
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  4. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  5. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Keep playing bad. Halftime in Medellin, Cuadrado saved us several times from conciding against Cali, while El Pirata scored his 7th goal in a PK to give us the lead. Let's hope we'll guard it to keep our chances alive but playing like this I don't see too many optimism in the playoff or against Fluminense.
     
  6. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    In my worst nightmare I didn't think that we'll be x10 more worse in the second half. Wow. I wanted to give Autuori another semester but I really don't see the point. We won't play better and even if we'll improve, it won't be so significant. It's time to replace him and 80% of the club.
     
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  7. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Your roster blows.... half your prospects are with the U20 and will probably be sold after the cup. Can’t not give a players to a coach then say he sucks. Rueda would have struggled with this team as well
     
  8. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Autuori is leaving. I'm guessing that he understood also that this team is far away from the one of 3 years ago. Normally I would give him another semester, he didn't have players to work with but in general I didn't see him runs the game so good. Beyond the results it was the way we played. With or without Autuori, we must change most of the squad.
     
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  9. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What a ********ing disgrace. We don'thave many players but the worst thing is the attitude. They don't fight the balls. they miss even the simplest passes. We don't shot to the goal.

    It is incredible. I never saw any touch from Autori. I don't know what is his style of game. Granted we don't have a good roster, but still you should be able to see anything from him as he manages games.

    I am not keen on replacing manager so soon... even in the face of this defeat I think he should have more time, but I am not hopefull for the future.
     
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  10. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The collapsed that we conceded two goals in a minute...wow. I don't remember when this happened. And yes, no touch what so ever by Autouri. You can count our good games under Autouri on one hand. The problem is much bigger than him, but we have to start with someone. Would like to see Osorio back or Gamero.
     
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  11. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Osorio was good for the local game, He always crap the bed in important international games. Also, his professionalism of late is worrysome. His stint with Paraguay reeks really bad.

    Gamero is an interesting choice. I guess he would do better with Nacional resources in the international game.
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    second parts arent good and more when you all know that osorio dont give tou results in short term
     
  13. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I would like to see a Colombian coach. Last three foreigners weren't good and cost a fortune. Osorio, Gamero, Leonel, maybe a more experienced Alexis Garcia than his last campaign with Nacional, Pecoso can be an interesting choice (someone needs to wake up this team). Hell, I don't believe what I'm saying but even Pinto does a hell of a job in Millonarios.
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Suarez and Garcia are made up for small teams they will be worse than autori for sure.
     
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  15. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    And both of them failed in Nacional ten years ago but I'm in a position where I wouldn't mind to try everything. The team sucks!
     
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  16. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Eventually Autuori continues. I'm not totally against this decision, I just don't think he'll be able to achieve more with this squad. I'm guessing then bored wants him at least until December, but what happen if we'll lose also to Flu? The fans will be angry again. If the management wants this process to succeed the must re -organize the the squad.
     
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  17. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I agree with the team decision, we should give him time and a better roster. You have to remember we had a dispute with the bastard of Uribe and we couldn't sign anyone until the very last.

    Now, with time we should expect better signings in june and better players to suit Autori's vision. What I am always mad about is that we have several "canteras" around the whole ********ing country and we never seem to have a lot of prospect coming from the pipe. (Nicolas Hernandez has been a great addition to our squad tough). With that many schools we should be starting 2-3 new good playes every year. But we usualy have to pay for prospects from other teams.

    If by december we don't improve we should shitcan his ass.
     
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  18. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    how has Sebastian Gomez done lately, I haven't watched this team play since the beginning of the season but him and Nicolas Hernandez were great in the midst of everything.
     
  19. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Decreased a bit like the rest of the team but in general he was one of the best players this semester. Filled in completely Campuzano's absence. Same is Nico Hernandez. Did a great job.
     
  20. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Campuzano was a BEAST in Nacional. Sebastian entered in the same roll with nowhere near the same production as Campuzano.
     
  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Coach is def going to get fired now
     
  22. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What a ********ing disgrace.... not even in international competitions we play with our hearts. Same complacency as ever. Everyone played bad, everyone.

    WI wasn't expecting to win or anything, but this team was incredibly bad. No defense, no middle and no forwards.

    Autori quited today. He really needed to go after this debacle.
     
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  23. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The good thing of me being in the sub 20 match in Poland is that I was too tired to stay for Nacional game. Glad(?) That I didn't miss a thing. What can we say? I have a feeling that the players simply don't want Autuori although he is far fron being clean and so is the management. Once again we need to replace 80% of the squad and that the new coach will adapt well. Maybe if they'll finally choose the right guy for this process it'll eventually work. Huge disappointment since rhe last title in 2017.
     
  24. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Pecoso is a name being mentioned. Is Nacional bankrupt? I mean would be interesting but that dude is 3-4 month patch will find some good players in youth level then everyone will turn on him

    Instead of blowing your wage budget on a over the hill Foriegner. Just raid Pasto and Union Magdelena.
     
  25. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If true, this could be a very good signing for the time being. I also read recently that both Alexis Henriquez and Aldo Leao Ramirez are on their way out. If he returns he basically needs to have a re-do of the team's structure.

     
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