News: Woody’s Roundup - The Summer 2019 Transfer Thread

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  1. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

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    Look at how small D Silva is. Who gives a ******** about his size
     
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  2. Naboomagnoli

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    Just clicked on the Bing link too, thanks Ashur :thumbsup:
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  3. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    The point being:
    He's small. Like both of your penis'.

    It's not an indication of success, but he needs to be that much more technically superior for every inch and pound he gives up.

    Then there's the question of whether or not his style of play fits into what we are going to be successful doing.

    I think Fernandes at City is dangerous.

    I think Fernandes at United is frustrating.
     
  4. Naboomagnoli

    Naboomagnoli Member+

    May 31, 2007
    In stature? Or stockiness?

    Fernandes at Utd is essential. If he ends up frustrating then that's because we've ********ed our reboot and he wouldn't have been why. We cannot progress if we stick with the idea of physique first, technique third or fourth, intelligence 12th. We need a player exactly like Fernandes, especially if we want to replace Pogba, and we need every signing we make to tie into the idea of intelligence, technique, workrate and movement. The same goes for our youngsters coming through. We need a common thread throughout the team.
     
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  5. MizzouMUFC

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    Hahahahaha. Once Ashur settles on a “fact” nobody is changing his mind despite stacks of evidence.

    Also, who the feck uses Bing?
     
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  6. Ashur

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    I believe my point was pretty clear: height is not the issue (results are definitely mixed on the matter), his build is. And when it's all said and done, I think my posts make it very clear that I'm a proponent for us going after him, if possible. I simply conveyed that his stature could be a concern, nothing more.
    I'm not sure what the problem here really is tbh...
     
  7. JamesA

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    Lol...your admissions of being wrong on a fact.. are...unique to say the least
     
  8. MizzouMUFC

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    The problem, isn't really a problem but a character flaw. It's ok to be wrong. You were mistaken about his height, it's not a big deal. But your defiance that you weren't wrong and then trying to deflect is just crazy.

    You were wrong. Just say it and it will set you free...

    Or so I hear. Can't say that I've ever been wrong myself.
     
  9. Naboomagnoli

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    Let me Bing that for you:
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  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    lol where have i seen this movie before?

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  11. Ashur

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    Synonyms of the word stature = Physical make up, build....
     
  12. incighte

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    May 1, 2016
    We don't play in a style conducive for a Bruno Fernandes-type player.

    It would be a largely underwhelming signing. It would have nothing to do with the rest of our rebuild.

    I'll even go as far as to say this:

    If we sign Fernandes, then I think it's a sign that Woodward is still having final word on picking signings. I think a signing like Fernandes would be indicative that we are going to wander the football wilderness for a little while longer.

    He just doesn't make us better in the ways we need to be better.
     
  13. Ashur

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    #813 Ashur, May 9, 2019
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    It's highly doubtful that Fernandes would be a Woodward pick. He's not a very notorious player and more over, he's not an outright shirt seller.
    It's a safe bet that Woodward probably did not know who he was, until he was told by someone in our scouting department, Ole or the like.
    It wouldn't surprise me if he really wanted someone like Joao Felix for instance, after hearing how he's the "new Ronaldo" eventhough the comparison is completely off, from my point of view (new Kaka would seem more appropriate).
     
  14. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    Maybe, maybe not.

    But he's a young, rising, goal scoring international in a market that we don't have great penetration in. From that perspective, particularly with our other Latin players looking on the way out, he'd be valuable to Manchester United the brand. That's what makes him a Woodward pick.

    He doesn't make sense for us footballing wise. He's a good player with a lot of potential. But he doesn't fit our style of play. There are question marks all over the place. We don't need question mark signings right now.
     
  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    our rebuild has already partially failed simply by virtue of re-adding quite a few of the same pieces that needed replacing in the first place.

    even if they never play we've sunk resources into things that return no value
     
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  16. Naboomagnoli

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    #816 Naboomagnoli, May 9, 2019
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    We play in a style conducive for a continued slide into at least a decade of mediocrity. Fixing that is the whole reason we need a rebuild. That is what we're rebuilding. We are not trying to sign players who will give us more of the ********ing same.

    We need to fix our ability, agility, energy, movement in the half spaces, delivery into the final third and team ethic. All of our signings need to contribute towards these goals. All of our sales need to contribute towards these goals. Fernandes is an excellent fit for some of our youth coming through, and we can sign him and a 6 for less than we'd get for Pogba. We could probably fit in Alderweireld or a shrewd CB signing for the difference.

    Thanks for clarifying that you have no idea what a Woodward signing is though.
     
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  17. MizzouMUFC

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    First, nobody technically proficient is conducive to our style. Because our style, or lack thereof, is long balls and run fast. It doesn't work except against the lowest tier of opposition. How do we fix that? Partly by buying players that allow us to play differently. There's a huge lack of technical ability in this team.

    Second, why would this be a Woodward signing? That makes zero sense. Bring us an unknown from a smaller league that would still be relatively expensive. Woody like value signings and Marquee name signings. Bruno is niether.
     
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  18. Ashur

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    I think Ole deserves a pass (or an incomplete at least) as far as our style goes. It's still kind of a unknown in some aspects, except for the fact that he clearly seems to favor a counter attacking one. Injuries, bad form and it must be said, a lack of quality in key positions, are other reasons for our ineptitude in recent weeks.
    We not only need quick, athletic players to make it work, but as we've seen recently, we need quick thinking, creative and technically proficient ones as well.
    Mata has shown some success but his problem is that his athleticism which was already almost non existent, appears to be completely gone now. Someone like Bruno Fernandes, to put it in a very simple way, is Mata but able to run and move far better than he does. Someone with his qualities is required IMO.
    But also, it's important to point out that our needs are vast and pretty different. Fernandes is a good choice, provided he's played in the right position and setup, but elsewhere we need different types of players. And that type of player should definitely not be the norm for the entire team. Not even close, as a matter of fact.
     
  19. MizzouMUFC

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    I wont bash Ole for our style, but I will say it's pretty clear he hasnt given the players much direction in terms of style or tactics. But that's mostly because he doesn't have the personnel to play differently than we have been.

    We cant be a possession team because our team lacks the technical ability to do so, especially in our back 4. Other than Shaw and Lindelof, nobody is capable of playing a pass longer than 10 yards or play 1-2 touches when needed. Same goes for the base of our midfield, Matic, so that style is out.

    When can't play City's style of packing skilled players in the middle and let the fullback provide width because we don't have skilled enough players in midfield and our fullbacks are by miles the worst in the top 6 and probably further down than that.

    We can't even play the old get wide and cross style of old because we have no actual wingers other than Martial (wing-forward), no wide men that can cross, and again our fullbacks dont provide width and rarely overlap outside of Shaw.

    So we play this half-assed, quick counter style. But it doesn't work because our CBs and RBs can't pass far enough to spring anyone so they find Matic, who takes 7 touches on the ball just to pass 10 yards into someones shins. If by some miracles he gets it to a crowded Pogba he either A. passes it back because he doesnt feel like playing or B. beats 2 guys and gets it forward. And then everything falls apart because our LWF has abandoned the flank and tucked in, Shaw has to get 40 yards forward to provide width, Rashford has just run straight forward and fast as possible hoping for a ball over the top, and our RW/10 is probably standing right next to Pogba so the entire right flank is barren in hopes that Young can get forward and ruin everything. Somewhere in that mess shit just falls apart.

    Im going to give myself an aneurysm trying to make any sense of our current style.
     
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  20. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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  21. United 16

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  22. Sofabloke

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  23. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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  24. LA. MAN UNITED

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    We're not the prettiest girl at the dance anymore. It's going to take a lot more to attract players to this dumpster fire and I'm sure we'll see these little chickenshit deals more often than not.
     
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  25. Ashur

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    His main attribute appears to be pretty obvious. Not the type of signing that will make us jump out of our seats, but we'll see. At that price, it's not like there would be tons of expectations on him if we do sign him.
     

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