MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the one hand I respect ripping off the band aid and making a change if an obvious mistake was made. However, I have some of the same thoughts. I love some of the business things FC Cinci has done. Love the fan support and I'm really hopeful that this will be a solid club with the support it needs to be successful. That said, I was extremely underwhelmed when they hired Sassano as technical director. We're talking about a USL who had never been involved with putting together an MLS caliber team. That's just as dangerous as hiring a coach who's spent his entire career at the USL level IMO. Then you combine him with a guy in Berding who spent most of his career on the sales side in the NFL and you basically have no one in a decision making role who has any experience @ MLS or a higher level. Not really all that surprising given some of the reaches they made, the amount they shelled out for certain players and their inability to bring an attacker player capable of link up play. Overall, it appears to be a technical team that figured out really quick that they were out of their depth.
     
  2. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't love the Smith hire either, but at least he has some experience at this level, though times have changed quite a bit since then. I will say that I think Nashville made a savvy hire in Mike Jacobs as technical director. SKC has done as well as anyone in being navigating the intricacies of MLS, so bringing someone in from that organization was a smart move, plus he's got a lot of experience at various levels of soccer in this country, including coaching in college. Then Ian Ayre obviously has a ton of experience in the game. That is a pretty big contrast vs the situation in Cincinnati. Now, if they start their team with 10 or so USL players, I'll have many of the same concerns I had with Cincinnati and Minnesota before they kicked off.
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    US and Atlanta head gigs too.
     
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  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Cincinnati Sam. :)

     
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  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    . . . They played most of this one with three defensive midfielders, even after going down a goal (22nd minute) and up a man (51st minute). Head coach Alan Koch displayed what I would consider to be a post-modernist point of view with regard to positions and roles . . .

    -- Matt Doyle

    What would you have done for a lineup, given that deep expansion-side bench, Matt? Didn't see that in the article.

    Maybe you think Adi should be player-coach? Is that what you're recommending? Adi seems like a genius to me. I'm sure the culture is going to be great with him still around mouthing off publicly about things that should have remained in the locker-room. Best of luck to the new guy and his 10-week contract.
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He left Kekuta Manneh on the bench, so maybe start there.
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Are you Matt Doyle?
     
  9. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not every lineup disagreement is a firing offense.

    And if the issue is the culture, that transcends a given game's lineup.
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    No, but you didn't provide an alternative either, and your grumpiness in that post was annoying.
     
  11. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Have your read anything from Doyle? He has more than explained his issue with the formation and where he thinks players on that team should be playing. He has repeatedly said that they have a player that was bought by Anderlecht for 5 million last year and they aren't playing him anywhere near in an effective position. He explained elsewhere that they left Alashe out on the wing despite that not being his spot and there being multiple players that are better there (particularly a man up).

    Of course Doyle has stated he has no f'n idea what they are doing with that roster before the season started. They have way too many d-mids and the lack of depth in other positions is directly related to that. So saying he should explain what they should do with that line-up when he has said the roster was poorly constructed months ago is just silly.
     
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  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    So sorry to trigger you. And I was fine with Cincinnati's lineup last Saturday. Obviously. :)
     
  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Saying I'm supposed to know the Complete Works of Matt Doyle in evaluating a single posted hot take from him is absurd.
     
  14. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want this to be true so badly that this atheist has gotten on his knees to pray. MLS NEEDS Sam Allardyce!!!
     
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  15. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta love the fans having fun with what they all knew would be a tough season.
     
  16. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The FCC roster construction and now coach firing is only slightly less confusing and weird than The Unicorn Store and The OA combined.
     
  17. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    4 hours before you posted that Doyle should explain himself he was involved in a 10+ minute talk about Koch and FCC.

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...went-wrong-alan-koch-cincinnati?autoplay=true

    It is still on the front page of MLSsoccer.com, so if you loaded that site you would have seen it.
     
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  18. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teitur Thoradson got 12 games with Vancouver in 2011 (one win, five draws, five losses). But I think Thomas Rongen has the dubious record, lasting only ten games with Chivas USA in 2005 (one win, one tie, eight losses - several comical ones).

    The 2011 Caps had essentially the same ppg average over the 34 game season as they did in Teitur's 11 games.
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
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  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Athletic:
    Seeds of Alan Koch’s firing were sown early in FC Cincinnati’s USL tenure

    Hopefully that's it on Alan Koch... dude is not interesting enough to deserve so much coverage. Good luck in the English third division or wherever you end up.


    I'm still blown away by how Friedel skates by... he barely got any criticism from American soccer pundits after his "our players need to fear for their physical safety" quotes, and now same thing after the Revs 6-1 loss... is it because of his USMNT career?
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #547 xbhaskarx, May 8, 2019
    Last edited: May 8, 2019

    The fans are not satisfied by that statement, based on the responses.

    Does "players" mean they have learned nothing from Hudson and Koch? The main issue with players is that they're refusing to join the Revs!

    Perhaps Mike Burns hiring his former roommate with zero professional coaching experience wasn't the best idea...
     
  23. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Revs are a joke, but you all know that. Nothing is going to change, Friedel will still be the coach at least until the end of the 2020 season. After all, the team needs time to "gel."

    And the latest is that he's been promising us a DP since the start of the season, and the Revs actually coughed up a hefty transfer fee to Standard Liege, which they accepted. Buuuut.... the player said he wasn't coming.

    The last time they did something like this, they forced Pepe Moreno to come, (hey, a contract is a contract) and, understandably, he didn't want to be here and they cut him after half a season.
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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