Game of Thrones (Season 8) [R]

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  1. luftmensch

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    Maybe he's conflating white walkers and wights? Because white walkers in general are pretty much like...the generals in the army of the dead.
     
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    I saw them more like unit leaders. So Lieutenants or Captains?
     
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    I don't think it was any foreshadowing, it's more of a coincidence considering that it's from the 2nd episode of the series and it was in reference to something completely different.
     
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    So apparently Daenerys Targaryen and Tyrion Lannister are the only main characters that are untouchable.

    Looks like all the other main characters are fair game.
     
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    White Walkers are the guys we usually see accompanying the Night King, the rest are wights. White Walkers can be killed by dragonglass or Valyrian Steel. A wight can only be killed by dragonglass or you need to burn them.

    I'd say the White Walkers are higher in the hierarchy of the Undead. The Night King was the first White Walker.

    Let's not forget that White Walkers can also control the wights, when one was killed last season a bunch of wights under him also died.
     
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    So, White Walkers were never dead? Like the kids Craster would sacrifice to the Night King?
     
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    The White Walkers were made by the Night King using infants given to him by Craster, yes. Though I would have to guess that wouldn't have been his only source of making new ones.
     
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    Yeah, they're dead, that's why they're the White Walkers. Only the Night King can make a White Walker. There's one scene where the Night King makes a baby into a White Walker, which begs the question, since they obviously grow up, do they eventually die or they just stop growing and that's it, they're "alive" forever??
     
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    I don't think White Walkers are dead. White Walkers are humans who went through the same procedure as the one originally performed by the Children of the Forest, when they were trying to create a "weapon" that would protect them from the First Men. So in that sense, I think they are technically alive, just turned into something different. The Wights are reanimated dead.
     
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    So I suppose that would effectively make them liches.:geek:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks that GRRM would have never included a crowd-pleasing moment like Brienne of Tarth's knighting?

    To me the point of that character was always the deliberate choice of giving the one character who would never get to call herself a knight the most chivalrous qualities out of all the characters. I get why they included the scene and the scene itself was well-done, but actually making her a knight kind of ruins that a bit, in my humble opinion.
     
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    I've stopped even questioning what GRRM would've done, it's basically fan fiction at this point, this season and the last have a very different feel than the ones based directly off his material. I'm still enjoying it but acknowledge that it's just not the same game.
     
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    Hmm...

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    Honestly expected more carnage among the main cast. Sad to see Lyanna go. Badass moment at her end, but still.

    Enjoyed the episode, but not quite as much as the Battle of the Bastards. Main complaint was the lighting. Had a hard time seeing what was going on in the fighting outside of Winterfell.
     
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    I mean....WTF....huge let down for me all around.

    Sir Jorah and Theon the only meaningful deaths....and after all the carnage, the main characters are all alive? Come on. Dothraki dead, unsullied, dead, thousands of zombies store the castle.....yet a handful wonder the halls of winterfell.

    Which dragons died...couldn't ********ing tell....And Arya...really, killing the Night King just like that.
     
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    I guess I went into it with lower expectations, the show's turned into a pretty standard affair the last few seasons so it wasn't much of a surprise to me that the battle wasn't more impactful.

    My biggest disappointment is that the actual big bad of the entire series was offed with three episodes to go. Now we've got a few episodes left for some palace intrigue that was supposed to be what the existential threat of the army of the dead put into sharp relief. Meh.
     
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    Exactly....no idea what the hell the writers were thinking.
     
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    They're finishing the show where it started: Stark vs. Lannister (with some Targaryen on the side).

    I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but the ice zombies were always the least interesting part of Game of Thrones for me. Watching Olenna Tyrell verbally own everyone in King's Landing, or Jamie and Tyrion's redemption arcs through the seasons were always way more interesting then hearing Jon Snow tell one more person "there's only one war that matters". So I'm glad that the show didn't end on the white walkers.

    Did it feel a little abrupt after all of the buildup? Sure. Honestly though, without a magical deus ex machina appearing in the last three episodes I'm not sure what other option the showrunners had. With no weapons aside from fire to defeat the white walkers, and the north's dead added to the Night King's forces to boot, King's Landing wouldn't have stood a chance. With the world-state the way it is, Winterfell was the only believable spot where the living could have won.
     
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    This. A thousand times this. What the ******** was seven seasons of "there is only one war that matters" about if they are going to devote the final three episodes to who gets to sit on that throne? :rolleyes:
     
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    So the Super-Khalasar followed Daenerys over the Narrow Sea and straight to their doom. Sad! They had definitely deserved a better fate.

    Did the scene inside of Winterfell's library remind anyone else of the kitchen scene with the velociraptors in "Jurassic Park"?

    So the named characters that were killed are:

    Dolorous Edd
    Little Lady Lyanna Mormont (R.I.P. :()
    Beric Dondarrion
    Theon Greyjoy
    Ser Jorah Mormont
    Melisandre

    Melisandre's death kind of reminded me of something but I can't quite place it. Possibly the ending of "Under The Skin"?

    BTW, Arya killing the night king has sort of ruined part of "GoT" mythology. The broadly accepted theory has always been that "The Prince that Was Promised" would come from Aegon II's lineage. So in terms of the characters on the show, that would mean it's either Daenerys Targaryen or Jon Snow. Unless they now reveal Arya is some sort of Targaryen bastard too? Which I can't see happening.
     
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    I want to ignore how horrible the battle tactics were, but they made no sense at all.
     
  23. Belgian guy

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    Last week: "We cannot hope to defeat them in an open battle."
    This week: "Hey, how about our cavalry does a blind charge on their position? What could go wrong?"
     
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    The use of dragons was just negligent.
     
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    It was also very confusing. Viserion (wight) is gone. Drogon is still alive. What about Rhaegal? He was definitely injured when Jon Snow crashed but is he dead?
     
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