The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is a link to an article about it

    https://www.statesman.com/news/2019...e-of-austin-fc-precourt-sports-president-says
     
  2. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    New info and renderings on new St. Louis MLS Stadium Revealed

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    22,500 Seating capacity of open-air stadium, with ability to expand to 25,000


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    https://mls4thelou.com/
     
  4. jeffclimbs

    jeffclimbs Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Roof design looks cool, but I'd hate to be in one of the corners that are not covered. Why leave those open?
     
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  5. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    That's gonna create some kick ass shadows.
     
  6. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Yes but is there a guy in a generic team jersey standing and holding a scarf while partially blocking the shot from the upper NW corner stands ?
     
  7. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Because it looks cool and these things shouldn't all look the same and supposedly the stadium will link a couple downtown St Louis features citizens view with pride.
     
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  8. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beautiful start. We shall see if the actual design is anything like this.
     
  9. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The proposed St. Louis stadium looks more similar to every other recent MLS stadium than not. St. Louis is an old city built primarily of brick. This monstrosity looks like an alien space ship landed there.
     
  10. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Well, form does follow function. IMO most new mid-size sedans look more similar to every other recent mid-size sedan than not.

    We're seeing successive iterations of small-mid size soccer stadiums built within about a decade of each other, designed by a lot of the very same folks because they've been at all these junctures of design and budget before. The fact that MLS owners are largely funding their own stadiums no doubt propels the drive for efficiency / cost control.

    I don't see a monstrosity here but agree it might be nice to have a "retro" looking MLS stadium for a change - especially for a club that's emphasizing it's deep soccer history (pro soccer teams back in 1907!)

    Maybe St Lou's owners can buy back some of the beautiful, looted St Louis brick sold underhandedly to decorate McMansions in Texas.

    Maybe the city can demand that the owners make some aesthetic/material upgrades, as happened in Orlando. If I recall correctly, Orlando city council, at a late hurdle, thought the proposed soccer stadium literally looked too cheap, so they insisted on something better as part of their approval.
     
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  11. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    The other thing I've noticed is people in some cities want EXACTLY some of that MLS stuff we're tired of.

    I cringed so hard when Salt Lake called itself "Real," and KC rebranded to "Sporting," and Cincinnati went predictably FC and even Madison did a fan poll for its club name and could not avoid FC. But they knew their respective markets.

    St. Louis might think they have more than enough heritage and old brick. They might well think a ball park with "retro" styling is a dire cliche, and want a glowing space ship to land in downtown St. Louis to signal things have changed, things are different and revitalized. They might point at Allianz or the new Cincy thing happening and say...
     
  12. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Arch and Busch Stadium?
     
  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Maybe. But a comparison of the current Busch Stadium, circa 2006, with its predecessor suggests the opposite.

    old busch stadium.jpg

    new busch stadium.jpg
     
  15. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should purchase the rights to St. Louis Browns.
     
  16. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Exactly. What's old is new again is old again.
     
  17. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    They can have SeatGeek. Anyone from StL want to trade?


    Though FWIW, hard to tell from the rendering posted here, but where are the suites/premium seats?
     
  18. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Plus, FWIW, the stadium is going in next to the old Union Station, which is kind of a mix of old and new architectural styles. Some of the old *neighborhoods* are very brick and historic looking, but I'm not sure that's something I'd totally describe downtown as. Plus, done wrong you get the aesthetics of the Edward Jones Dome, or whatever they're calling it now, that looks neither historic, nor even good.

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    /IIRC, the stadium site will be to the right of the bottom picture.
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    market-street-saint-louis-mo-bill-cobb.jpg
    Looking east along Market Street toward downtown and the Arch. Union Station is the red-roofed building on the right. A space ship in the foreground would be out of place, even if red-brick is dispensed with.

    Also, I know downtown is an elastic concept, but in my mind, Union Station is not in downtown St. Louis.
     
  20. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    https://mls4thelou.com/

    "Connecting Forest Park to the Gateway Arch.
    The open-air stadium will be centrally located in St. Louis Downtown West. Our proposed MLS stadium will sit within a resurgent corridor downtown that will ultimately connect The Gateway Arch to Forest Park, two of our most iconic civic spaces."

    FWIW, I'd start by rebranding "The Lou" for cryin' out loud.
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  21. wingman2468

    wingman2468 Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    May 25, 2018
    im not a big fan of using ETFE for the entire canopy. basically a greenhouse.
     
  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The old-real-estate-marketing-speak. Kind of like San Francisco's Tenderloin is in Greater Pacific Heights.
     
  23. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or Denver's Five Points neighborhood is being called "RiNo" (short for "River North") by gentrifiers real-estate developers.
     
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  24. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    And enhance the sound from the supporters!

    *duck*
     
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  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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