FIFA are based outside of the EU in Switzerland. The next planned World Cups are scheduled to be played well outside of the EU. I don't see why EU law would apply. Unless there is provision for it within the EU's agreements with Switzerland, which is possible. Qualifiers are a different matter. However, they could go ahead with the players affected only banned from the finals tournament. Farce, which bring me onto the main reason why FIFA cannot do this: broadcasters and their money. A World Cup without the best players in the World would be a farce. Making threats without being able to back them up is not a wise choice. I suspect that TV rights holders, seeing their product devalued massively, would have a much better chance of taking FIFA to the cleaners than the EU.
For the WC itself ouside the EU I can see your point, but it's about the lifetime banning of a player. The ISU case was also about banning from skating world cups outside the EU, like in Korea and Japan or Canada/USA and got hit by the verdict anyway.
I agree. If a Super League is formed and the players are banned by FIFA, some people will be mad at the Super League, some people will be mad at FIFA, and some people will be mad that the sides broke up without picking a side. I don't want a Super League. It's possible to start a war that nobody wins, and a Super League could do that. I hope Robert Borden and feyenoordsoccerfan can agree that FIFA would try to ban players on Super League clubs and the players would challenge their ban in court. A decision about the top soccer players is a lot more important than a decision about figure skaters. I don't think anybody should say that a court will 100 percent rule in a certain way. Regardless of what the law says, judges sometime consider the impact of their decisions on people not involved in the case, such as fans. I agree with Robert Borden's opinion. If there is a labor union that is only for teachers, a teacher should not be able to change jobs to a doctor and remain in the teachers' union. Stopping being a teacher is a voluntary decision that includes having to leave the teachers' union. Making a Super League is a voluntary decision that FIFA should try to ban players for.
Courts donot work from the premise that someone is more equal than the other, so this is a wrong statement. The fact is that an organisation doesnot have to let non members participate. So when a Superleague would form and the clubs have to leave the leagues that are members of the FIFA/UEFA/etc. players themselves stop being members and thus lose their rights. That's the difference with the skaters.
Some have warnings from other examples: http://www.startribune.com/nothing-...uropean-league-of-top-soccer-clubs/500686761/
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foo...efa-to-block-breakaway-competition/ar-BBPnb7T "In May, Uefa and the EU signed a new Memorandum of Understanding. The agreement stated that the Council of Europe and Uefa recognise that the European sports model “is based on sporting and financial solidarity mechanisms” citing “the principle of promotion and relegation” and “open competitions with a balance between clubs and national teams” which suggests that the EU would oppose the proposed relegation exemption." This is the foundation of it all: https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFile...aorg/Leagues/02/55/15/63/2551563_DOWNLOAD.pdf In the mean time developments have progressed on the subject. https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=2590467.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...l-threat-european-super-league-historic-deal/
The same colleges being good at sports every year is closer to European soccer leagues than what American professional leagues have. Even if every American soccer fan wanted to call it football, it would create confusion with American football. I don't like that you criticized all Americans, and you didn't provide a reason why you think he's wrong. England has a top six, while other countries have fewer than that, and Italy and France have a big one. Manchester United has 10 Premier League games against the rest of the top six. They played Arsenal and Chelsea in the FA Cup. They played 6 Champions League Group Stage games, of which 2 or 4 were against top clubs. Young Boys aren't elite. Valencia might be worse than all of the top six in England, but they're sixth in La Liga with the second fewest goals allowed. Manchester United played 2 against Juventus, 2 against PSG, and will play 2 against Barcelona. Excluding Valencia and Young Boys, that's 18 games against the rest of the top six in England or three of the best seven non-English clubs in the UEFA club coefficients. 18 games is an average of 2 per month in a 9 month season. With 2 games per month against those clubs, I don't feel like Manchester United has too few games against top clubs.
you'll find it out when superleague happens. (unfortunately) league that employs 99% of world best players in by far most popular sport worldwide can't fail. or let's use minnesota language: how many of world's best ice hockey players play in big ten college league? everyone figures that out, apart from some americans who think college sport is everything! long live tim tebow!!!
The problem with this reasoning is that the EPL more or less is the current superleague. With those 6 top clubs you have (10+8+6+4+2=) 30 top matches. Yet in Europe people arenot interested in those matches by the numbers the SL investors hope. People in their own leagues want to look at the clubs they connect with, not with some socalled superclub. I guess, because it's a topic not familiar to Yanks, the borders of countries in Europe are something different from borders of Federal US states. These borders have formed and came into existance by bloody wars over millenia. Leagues of the countries are part of that history, something peculiar to that country. And so do clubs within those leagues have a very strong connection with their location. People over here first and foremost watch their clubs because the love the club, not because of a star or so playing for them. Feyenoord isnot a club that regularly is successful, on the contrary. By your standards Feyenoord fans en masse would be watching the epl instead of Feyenoord on FoxSport Eredivisie, because even if one of the top epl 6 play an epl minnow there are double or triple the number of stars to watch than a Feyenoord fan can see watching his club. Matter of fact is that they donot. It's because of the reason why a club in Europe exists, not as a vehicle for entertainment in the first place, but as a part of your identity.
come on man, be serious, noone said local fans are not devoted to their teams. my point was something else, random guy in a country far far away without real bond to football and with obviously zero sense of reality compaired big ten icehockey conference with potential superleague and claimed superleague wouldn't succeed! this is so far away from reality, can't be further! yes, there will be resistance to such project, as there is resistance to modern football's commercialization already, but if done smart, the league including more than 95% of worlds best players is sentenced to success, no matter what we think about it. I hate recent developments in world football and IMHO they are on the best way to make commercial moloch out of it, but we, old guys are not their primary target anyway.
I'm not saying this is how the clubs feel, but I could see Bayern (although they're in second now), Juventus, and PSG feeling like they don't get enough competition in their domestic league. Having the top Spanish clubs in a Super League would make El Clasico and the Madrid Derby no longer be the standout games for those clubs because all of their games would be against top clubs. England has a big six. If Tottenham didn't get in a Super League, you'd be removing their rivalry with Arsenal. You'd be removing the Merseyside derby between Liverpool and Everton along with the three big six clubs in London and other London clubs. The Premier League has West Ham, Crystal Palace, and Fulham for a total of six clubs in London. Fulham clinched relegation. They're near Chelsea geographically, but the difference in quality could be too big to make it a rivalry. Benfica and Porto are tied for first in Portugal, and I don't think a Super League should take one without the other. A Super League would have to decide how far down in league quality they would go to decide about Shakhtar, Dynamo Kyiv, Zenit St. Petersburg, clubs in Moscow, Besiktas, Anderlecht, Red Bull Salzburg, Ajax, and Basel.
So, in the SL the suspense is about what? The title? Realistically there are only a few teams that will challenge for it. So what are the rest doing? Playing deadwood in the SL table? In the national leagues the clubs have besides the title CL and EL spots to play for, thus the interest and the suspension is still on board. Not so in the SL. Soccer in Europe isnot only entertainment. Something has to be on the line to be worthwhile. A club isnot some Ballet company people come to watch the extraordiary skills of the stars with the same performance all over the world. Star gazing will in this setting soon have the same excitement as the Harlem Globetrotters. Nice for foreigners to watch, but for the diehard fans unappetiting.
From another thread: People are very happy if a self nominated superclub gets run over by a mickey mouse league club. "As soon as the Radio folks announced 'GOL DE AJAX! Gol de De Ligt, Juve 1, Ajax 2!", Camp Nou thundered with a mighty roar. It sounded awesome while watching the game! lol (70th minute when Sergi Roberto/Semedo substitution was being made.) @ 2:28:05 of the recording." https://www.ccma.cat/catradio/alaca...ster-united-el-programa-sencer/audio/1036760/
Hmm, unsure how you're interpreting my quote but here was my thinking when I posted that. 1 - I found it interesting that the roar of the crowd came immediately after Radio Catalunya announced De Ligt's goal. It suggested to me that many in the stadium were listening to their commentary. It was as if the radio announcers were conducting an orchestra given the fans' reaction the exact moment of their announcement. It was quite interesting to listen to when it happened. 2 - I felt the Barcelona supporters gave their roar of approval for the goal, not so much because it was a case of "a self nominated superclub getting run over by a mickey mouse league club" but, specifically, because it was the club Cristiano Ronaldo plays for getting knocked out by a club Barcelona have had a long attachment to. Even I can admit that Barcelona probably fit the bill of being "a self nominated superclub". I'm no supporter of a Super League and if Barca were to ever ditch La Liga in order to join one I would likely quit supporting them. Heck, I'm still old school: I say the "Champions League"/European Cup should only be for league champions and bring back the Cup Winners Cup.
Messi IS the king. That's why Cristiano left Madrid for Juventus. He's sick of being in Messi's La Liga shadow.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ind-ajaxs-incredible-champions-league-journey "They have become every neutral's favourite side. Their UEFA Champions League journey has brought joy and romance to a competition that can so often feel elitist and predictable." This is why the superleague never will succeed as it is being built on boring to the hilt.