Atletico Nacional

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Barcos is really good
     
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  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Can’t find a good stream. Watching Millos instead love the blue of their jerseys.
     
  3. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Agree. Great assist to Lucumi.
     
  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Colombians need to learn how to take Pks.... getting embarrassing at this point
     
  5. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The first half was the best I have seen Nacional play this year. Too bad the guy forgot how to play and that they are too young and don't have hierarchy (a.k.a huevos) ti dominate a game yet.

    We shouldn't have gone to pks, this series was winnable but we messed up.

    I don't fault Bocanegra. This loss I give it to Duarte who should ahve scored 3 in Paraguay.

    Also Barcos wasn't at 100%... And it showed. Duarte Is so bad that Barcos at 50% is still miles better than him.

    This will be a long year.
     
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  6. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Totally agree. PK is a Colombian sickness Like that guy, Palermo. Truly embarrassing.
     
  7. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We were much better than Libertad in both matches yet we lost because we didn't score 10% from our chances. On one hand I'm disappointing, Nacional always should participate in Copa Libertadores. On the other hand, we don't really have a team that can compete with respect in this tournament. We have ONE striker. ONE! We have Duarte who lost confidence at all. Our midfield has players like Aldo (too old), El Indio, Candelo (Simply not good enough) and Cepellini (average) and you can't compete against teams like Gremio or even Rosario or U Catolica. Hell, I don't remember when was the last time that we scored two goals! We have serious problems and now we also have the Sudamericana. Maybe there the team will improve a bit because it doesn't look like Autuori handles the situation and it worries me.
     
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  8. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Completely agree with you on every front.
     
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  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don’t think Nacional can compete in the Sudamericana either. This team is truly awful. It’s basivally a youth team at this point. With 3-4 35+ year olds. I don’t share the same love with the striker dude hasn’t done enough to warrant the love you guys are giving him.

    Nacional currently has 1 player in cuadrado. The rest of the team are young promising players. I was hoping it would be a Dep Cali pecoso situation where he found Balanta, Casseira, Borre and Precedo (someone save this dude from China!)
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yesterday you were telling that you dont have stream to watch the match and now you contradict the opinion of others that have watch the matches, you only read in wiki the goals.................when people say that barcos is good isnt because the stats of the end of the match, that is the only source of knowledge you have.

    When you try to contradict the opinion of someone....WATCH THE MATCH. after you are only making conclusions of something you dont know....

    Cuadrado isnt close to be nacional best player. Because he went to the world cup s third goalie.....dont assume he is so valuable.

    Try to watch more and say less of the things you dont wacth...............is like the repeating argument of barrios because the only match that you watch of him
     
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  11. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    YouTube bro. Called finding it.
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You didnt watch it, you havent made a point of the guy beyond the "goals scored" ......dont contradict people that watch matches.....base on your internet reports and your bias because the age of the guy
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That miss by Duarter came back to haunt Nacional along with many other misses.
    That said, Libertad also missed a lot of chances they could have buried in the first leg.

    I feel happy for Leonel. He had is team prepared to advance and they did what they needed to do.
     
  14. MiLo4891

    MiLo4891 Member

    May 14, 2007
    FLL
    They need to let go of Autuori and Duarte.. Getting eliminated this early in Libretadores shouldn't be happen without being punished..
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't know about firing but I would have Autuori on a short leash.
    If by the end of the season the team does not improve he should be gone.
     
  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This team is garbage

    5 vs the goalie

    He stops 3 back to back shots haha
     
  17. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think the team is getting better but not at the speed we want... we had the clasico in our hands :(
     
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  18. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I liked our last couple of games, but just like the sub-20, when we didn't score we received goals. We lost 8 points this semester after we led in the game. Our defense also needs to be more tough. It looks soft to me. I still have mixed feeling regarding Autuori, not 100% complete with him.
     
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  19. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @RafaLarios, 11 minutes now into the game vs. Cali, do you have a fu*king explanation?????,
     
  20. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That was horrible at first... I have to say that I missed the Cali goals because stadium operations ********ed royally.... The stadium wasn't full and I had to make a queue for 40 ********ing minutes :mad:.. and I am a Season Ticket holder... The stadium doesn't have any decent infrastructure and it shows. It needs to be changed.

    The team was atrocious for most of the first half. Indio Ramirez started over Ceppelini and it was a cluster******** of epic proportions. The guy had to be changed in the first half and he was booed (deservedly so) when he went out. The guy shows some flashes of talent but overall it seems he is not good enough to take the team on his back. At the end he was crying. But no one can say he hasn't been given enough opportunities. He just doesn't seem to take advantage of them.

    Once Ceppelini entered the field the team changed its play and we took over the game.. we scored one at the end of the first half.

    On the end we tied after being down 2-0 but the team so far has been mediocre. We lack 3-4 quality players to compete and we might miss the playoffs if we keep playing like this. Barcos has great talent, but he is alone up top. Candelo showed good play in the second half, Hernandez and Bocanegra played well. Ceppelini saved our bacon taking control of the midfield. Mafla is horrible. And the others are just not at the level of Nacional expectations.

    We could have won the game.. we had some opportunities to score the winner but cali's goalie saved several shots.

    I have hope as always but in the end this team is just not good enough. :cry:

    One more thing, I think Cali played well, it is a very competent team, at least that what it showed yesterday.
     
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  21. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Is interest how between a year they distroyed the roster of nacional.....

    In all lines they have decreased.

    Cuadrado is a goalie for medium teams.....

    You are lucky that Barcos have been a good signing...
     
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  22. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I agree besides Cuadrado's part. He's an upgrade despite his horrible mistake yesterday. Both Vargas and Monetti were much worse than him. 5he Argentine caused us to lose the superliga, the league title and we were eliminated by Tucuman because of his idiotic mistakes. As for the other positions besides Barcos I agree.
     
  23. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah monetti and vargas were attrocious..but are easy to improve them.

    My point is how nacional passed from have the best goalie of the contienent to now have a goalie like cuadrado...that you can argue if he is in the top 5 of the league...

    And happened in all the lines...of nacional
     
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  24. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    After a horrible first half, Autuori brought Hayen Palacios in for Yerson Candelo and the team started to play. The best half of Nacional in a long time, although Cucuta was very dangerous and missed a lot. Vlacho for me was the MOM, did everything in the field and almost score a wonderful goal. Didn't stop running for a second, I like this player a lot. Ceppelini looks much better from game to game and Barcos continue with his good work by scoring an important goal. At the end very important win in a very tough stadium. Our first domestic win in 6 matches.
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Who played in the full backs??? did you misees machado or helibelton??? i had the impression that their absense was important for the winning ...
     

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