Bundesliga 2018-19, Bayern Munich or bust!

... Rall's always inconsistent ball control regularly stops her from being a serious goal threat. And to make that worse, her inability to pass accurately as an AM can also often render her entire presence as a attacker completely irrelevant facing the league better opposition.

With both of these weakness, and her clear inexperience at being a FB, getting even more exposed when Rall played against Italy, and Spain, during two of Germany's most bipolar performances in recent memory too.

 

No... The good players get targeted by the bigger clubs, with new foreign names, and new domestic faces, all coming into various mid table teams for the opportunity to showcase what they can do next.

Meaning this is simply what player movement looks like within a promotion and relegation based league system, missing the interference of league owners contrived attempts to create artificial parity.

Creating scenarios where a promising player like Gwinn can follow the path of previous Freiburg based youth talents, knowing Freiburg (as a club) will/cam continue to recruit what it needs to remain relevant against rivals who used to absolutely destroy them a mere 5 years ago.

Lattwein is definitely Hoffenheim's best player right now, but your correct. As a CAM/CM there really isn't a true need to force her into a WC squad potentially featuring Magull - Goeßling - Leupolz - Dallmann - Däbritz - Marozsan - Lohmann - Laudehr.

Expecting her to be a full senior international while she's still at Hoffenheim might be too much to expect right now. But a move to Essen or Potsdam, could see Lattwein take another step closer to one day being part of a UCL level team.

 

Wow.. you really are out of complete synchronicity with the path of German wnt program lol.

The last German U-23 wnt international was.. let me check.... 24.05.2012..

lol, again... I wish you'd stop making such misguided comparisons between everything related to German women's football, and the USwnt program...

It's not doing you any good constantly viewing German women's football through the lens of USwnt fan, unwilling to accept the basic differences in the two sporting cultures.

I mean, historically Germany and the US have had absolutely NOTHING in common when it comes to accomplishing success in this sport, and will only ever continue to have nothing in common in the future too.

Oh, and this knowing that whenever the DFB/German wnt finally wakes up from it's slumber, truly understanding the best process of consolidating it's strength around European and domestic professional club structures, will have ZERO influence from the USwnt, it's coaches, or it's USSF subsidized league.

 

Who said this version of Bayern are a "German all-star team"...? Their a European based club team, not a contrived pseudo German international team lol.

You complain, or raise questions on the competitively negative nature of richer clubs recruiting the best domestic talent from mid-table sides. But then misrepresent Bayern's progression on the grounds they don't aggregate enough of the leagues best domestic talent...

Even though with various injuries to players, Bayern seem to average around 6 German internationals every game. Which in your mind somehow equates to them being considered a German all-star team, for regularly featuring 1 or 2 more domestic international than Wolfsburg...

Yes, Bayern could have featured 10 German internationals today, but to serve what purpose exactly...? Maier's still injured, Rolser's unavailable for the rest of the season, while Islacker's a just good mid tier forward in a squad competing against Däbritz, Rolfö, Beerensteyn, Roord, Damnjanovic, for a forwards role lol.

 

Hey... Bayern's already recruited both Gwinn, and Dallmann for next season, meaning their average may increase to having 7-8 domestic internationals starting each match. So we'll so how that works out for scoring goals...

 

It becomes painfully obvious sadly that Bundesliga is getting weaker and weaker...

UEFA has to act and give more teams from England, France and Germany the chance in CL in my opinion. Otherwise ...... I mean no one wants to stay in a club who doesn't stand a chance to play internationally, and it's 100% understandable why the likes of Doorsoun, Demann, Hendrich, Huth etc. are moving to Wolfsburg, Potsdam or other international clubs

This is very unfortunate - and bad move from Elsig to stay in Potsdam, I'm afraid

 

Bayern I meant to say, not Potsdam*

 

Compared to how this league used to look, I'd argue it actually contains more depth right now, seeing matches between the top 7 clubs providing more interesting contests than could ever have been imagined in the days of the almighty Frankfurt winning everything with ease.

But the best players will always get the chance to move to the sports stronger teams... it's always been the natural order within European football, and makes sense for the natural progression of league talent, across a still very wide gap in players ages, and access to full time professionalism.

Plus the large amounts of money it takes for clubs compete at a higher level of European competition, means not a lot of them are going to actively pursue entry into UEFA's top club competition anyway.

Meaning if players like Doorsoun, Demann, Hendrich, Huth, have had the benefit of developing outside the leagues top two clubs, I don't understand how this a negative if it means more of the nations elite players get spread throughout a more diverse number of clubs....

 

Pajor could have gone to a team outside this leagues top two, but she stayed in Wolfsburg's reserves for a few seasons, and now looks like following the path of a Mediema, or Hegerberg. While somebody like Gwinn has spent the same time playing for Freiburg's 1st team, allowing her to take her step towards the leagues big two next season.

And while this slower process worked for those players, you have a talent like Yokoyama who couldn't follow the same path as Iwabuchi; going from saving Hoffenheim from relegation, to helping Bayern win titles.

Showing us that there's a clear maturation process for talented players within this league, with there being very different paths to eventually aggregate the best players at the few top teams.

Oh, also highlighted even more by the fact established players like Doorsoun, Demann, Hendrich, Huth, have all moved around various clubs in this league, attempting to reach a point they can confidently perform at a level the elite clubs would consider them a potential recruit.

 

LOL, MVT had to be in the stands watching this... Knaak scoring two good goals, basically guaranteeing her place in the next two WC prep friendlies.

However, I still feel like Bühl the better option for a potential WC squad role. So I hope somebody within the senior team coaching staff was paying attention to her recent performance versus Wolfsburg, as reports suggest she was unplayable for long periods of what's said to have been a very close encounter.

 

But I feel like the improved recruitment policy of established male clubs (Bayern, Freiburg, Essen, Hoffenheim, Sand) has gone unnoticed too.

As it's no coincidence the less expensive youth, and more niche foreign player markets that used to make Potsdam relevant at the top of this league, is now occupied by other clubs with improved infrastructure and finance to attract the kinds of talent that used to help Potsdam build strong teams.

I mean, Just look at the fact Freiburg has a team featuring full internationals from the Netherlands, Japan, and Austria, alongside some of the nations best up and coming junior internationals.

Or look at the various young domestic players Essen's managed to retain, and the eastern European talent that's managed to establish themselves in the league at Sand (Damnjanovic, Skorvankova), before they eventually gain moves to stronger teams.

These and more are scenario's that never existed in ways to negatively effect Potsdam 5 years ago. But their competing in a different world now, where any ineffective recruitment will be exposed by opponents with enough talent of their own to hurt/stifle even the strongest teams in the league.

 

Bremer, Kemme, Simic, Marozsan, Simon, Wieß, have done absolutely nothing of significance to advance their own games while playing abroad too; letting me know without the clear financial incentives, you'd see way less German players leaving the league early or in the prime years of their careers.

So while Bayern try and get their future in order, and the other male backed clubs beneath the top two work on improving their female infrastructures, I can understand people possibly questioning the leagues true depth of quality.

But if this doubt only exists because it's a league where you've previously seen 3 of it's clubs with UCL titles, I'd say you aren't going to see that happen again with more of the male Europe elite opening their doors of professionalism to the continents top female talent.

Frankfurt and Potsdam winning future UCL's without that male club money and infrastructure, would be similar to suggesting Hamburger SV are future male UCL winners, all because they accomplished something special 30 years ago.

 

Get rid of Knaak please

 

hotjam, I think you forgot that Leupolz was resting because of CL... and Islacker a star...?

That being said, I'm waiting for the likes of Dortmund or Schalke to start producing some women teams

But CL is up and I believe that Wolfsburg's gonna crash out lmao

 

https://tv.dfb.de/video/highlights-sc-freiburg-vs-vfl-wolfsburg/24691/

Struggling against Freiburg... Fischer doesn't look like the same player she was and Gössling had a game where she simply does many unexpected mistakes considering the calibre of a player like she is

 

If not a senior women's team, it's definitely strange not seeing them at least run junior teams for girls.

If their still using the same garbage game plan that failed them last season, then yes... Wolfsburg will lose to Lyon.

Their best option for success would see Minde and Blässe in the FB roles, using Doorsoun as the CB next to Fischer, and waking up to the reality that Goeßling is still their best DM/CM.

Every other position in the team should be pretty obvious, but Wolfsburg's biggest problem is still their unbalanced squad, and their coaches insistence on being completely reliant on his forwards ability to constantly overwhelm opponents.

Remove the threat of those forwards though, and suddenly Wolfsburg becomes a very ordinary team once you get behind their mid-field.

 

The highlights don't seem to tell the full story, as all the match reports seem to be saying Freiburg were really good in this match, with Bühl reported as being pretty unplayable most of the time.

So it's hard to judge Goeßling when her teams entire back 4 and mid-field couldn't seem to contain Freiburg's young attack.

 

hotjam, are you even capable of understand that Maier has been injured...?

 

If you can't understand why Islacker nothing more than another good mediocre squad player for any high level team, when the footage comes to YT I think it a good idea for you to watch her substitute performance for Bayern in the UCL...

People who saw the match live said she was the best player on the field, and kept Wolfsburg's defense within a constant state of panic lol. But she's still developing the one side of her game that will turn her from young menacing potential, towards elite goal threat; end product.

Plus, with MVT's arrival I'm glad your slowing starting to realize a good German wnt, is a balanced team, capable of producing both styles of possession orientated football, and counter attack football lol.

 

No, no, no... Knaak is a player I like to call "light weight". That being someone who's physical limitations are only ever exposed further with them facing stronger opposition.

And if there's one thing the awful run of Jones showcased, was Germany complete irrelevance having it's wnt featuring light weight forwards.

So for a new coach who's likely only going to feature one forward within their preferred 4-2-3-1, I don't see the need to confuse Knaak as a player in the same arena as Popp, Schüller, Petermann.

I think it's clear Huth, Gwinn are the two right AM's. Däbritz, Dallmann, Bühl, Schweers, should be the only candidates to start on the left. But anyway you look at this, there's no way Knaak should be in the WC squad if she's competing with any of these players for a AM, or FW role.