Colombian National Team General Thread

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  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  2. Cruzifero

    Cruzifero Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Nu Jeru
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Very disappointing call up on the defensive side but the rest is normal.
     
  3. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I suggest we all send CQ Twitter/IG highlights from the Poland game ;)
    When we had JFQ, James, Cuadrado, Uribe, Barrios playing at the same time

    https://twitter.com/Carlos_Queiroz
    https://www.instagram.com/carlosqueiroz_/?hl=en
     
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  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Also a very small call up for a new coach and process with very limited time before Copa America

    Honestly with no back up RB and no LB at all till Fabra comes back we should have called 5-10 in each postion fk it! Find one. Not hey let’s bring 2 garbage ones just because they play at Nacional.

    Now with the roster being called by Reyes last year and Quinonez this year. This is the main team. Basically with no room for error.

    That means Win the copa America or bust!

    We taken him to be win stuff and he is going with our main squad. Make it happen
     
  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Mina has to play. We have James and Quintero in free kicks and corners. It's a match made on heaven
     
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  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I have no doubt in my mind that Queiroz is looking at our World Cup matches and already conjuring up set pieces to work on in the training ground with him as the primary target.

    Such a weapon that no one else can really match up with in the air both offensively and defensively.
     
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  7. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    My thoughts:

    1) Everybody who NEEDS to be in the roster is.

    2) 23 guys seems silly when the new coach knows nothing about us. This is basically Reyes’ team from October.

    3) I like that each of the strikers are in scoring form. No Bacca even though he was mentioned in the conference indicates how high the bar has been set.

    4) I hope Cardona is out because of PR issues.

    5) Pekerman NEVER would have done that lame commercial. Me no like.
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Me parecen a las primeras de bolillo.....forzando a dejar gente sin meritos en la transicion de la seleccion....
     
  9. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Call ups seems fine, he's going for a core right off the bat which I think makes sense for a new coach who needs to get up to speed and work on a new system. I'm glad he didn't call up Bacca, he's been a great player but we can't have both him and Falcao at their ages imo and I am almost positive that he won't play a 2 forward system. I do think Quiroz will be a pragmatic coach who will set us up defensively solid, I really hope he gets Quintero and James on the field together, if not we're not going to get to another level.

    Interesting to see how he lines us up, I think Fabra will be there as soon as he gets some games, I think Jeison is talented but he needs to play, I think getting a look at him in training makes sense and decide off that if he deserves to be in the squad if he's sitting the bench. We don't have time to pick and choose or reward players until the coach gets up to speed, go for what you think you need and who you think will be involved and get them on the same page first.
     
  10. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    For me one of the best players in Colombia is not here: Victor Cantillo. Could easily enter instead of Lerma or Cuellar. Better Cuellar because Lerma is more defensive.

    Also, Helibelton and Machado shouldn't be there. How about Piedrahita or Fuentes from Junior? for example?

    Borre also deserves to be there but as for the strikers, the rest also should've been there
     
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  11. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #3611 Baal88, Mar 11, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
    Piedrahita sucks dick. I just can't understand why Daniel Muñoz from Rionegro hasn't been called, I Guess he doesn't play in a Big team. ********ing hate that attitude. He is an incredible weapon in offense.

    Also Neyder Moreno from Envigado is with Cantillo the best midfield we have in the FPC, he can play box to box, defensive midfield, winger... And to all that add a killer shot and a decent range of passing. He is the most complete midfielder I've seen since Totono. Hopefully he is taken to the Preolímpico and earns a transfer to a tougher League, he has the potential to be the answer to our prayers for a true 8.
     
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  12. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was just an example to show that Helibelton and Machado souhldn't be there in the first place. Marlos also isn't NT material, but surely a better form than Helibelton at the moment. Same goes to Machado. Not only that they shouldn't be in the NT, they shouldn't be in Nacional.
     
  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The 23 call up annoys me with 1 more call up till copa America

    Then Tesillo, Murillo and the 2 Nacional players. How is Machado better then Fuentes?

    Also Cantillo really the only sub for Uribe anything else would be too defensive
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It just comes down to what the Staff and the Federation believe is best for making a run in the Copa
    Keeping with the aforementioned core of players who know each other already, have trained together already and have done well under Reyes in the friendlies.
    I think there's other players he mentioned like Cuadrado, Izzy, Zapata who are also being considered. (and probably others he did not mention.)


    Good point about Cardona. It would be a media circus in Asia due to his previous incident

    The commercial is something I like. To each his own on that one.
     
  15. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  16. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cantillo and Fuentes are missing from the call up.

    It makes sense that Bacca, M. Angel Borja, Santos Borre weren't called up as they've missed too many chances lately. I'd like to see if Morelos can redeem himself this call up.

    I'm surprised Queiroz called up Murillo instead of Espinosa, considering that Espinosa actually plays and is a large plodding centerback that he seems to prefer.

    I think Queiroz will play a 4-5-1

    ----------------Ospina----------------
    Arias---Sanchez--Tesillo---Borja
    -----------Barrios---Uribe-----------
    Villa-----------James-----------Diaz
    ----------------Falcao-----------------
     
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  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Starting Villa and Diaz while benching Quintero doesn’t seem likely tho I like that formation

    Tho bench Villa for Quintero and move him to the middle and James to the right
     
  18. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think Queiroz prefers a more dynamic starting lineup.

    It will be interesting to see if Queiroz goes against his football beliefs by starting two playmakers at the same time.
     
  19. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Did CQ even have two playmakers to work with when he was in charge of Portugal/Iran?
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #3620 HomietheClown, Mar 11, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
    Queiroz mentioned that Jeison is an important player to the team. I dont how he came to that conclusion, maybe Reyes mentioned it to him based on the last call up? Maybe he is an important locker room guy? (Who knows.)

    Bernardo just has not been a part of many call ups and just does not have a reputation at all.
     
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  21. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Jeison has a much better ceiling then Bernardo, they are both behind Mina and Davinson. Zapata is probably 3rd right now but he wasn't called because of age I guess? I think he probably wants to see Jeison for himself since he's not getting games to decide if he's worth calling as a back up, then will either move on or keep him around. Its not suprising he's not playing at Barca, Lenglet/umtitti/Pique are in the conversation for the top 10 CB's in the world when they are fit, that doesn't mean Jeison is bad and Valencia he seemed to fall out with the coach.

    Quiroz seems to have excluded some players based on age and is going for guys he can build with going into 2022, I like that approach but Falcao is the outlier. I think since Falcao is the captain and such a good guy within the squad and the best pure goal scorer he's keeping him involved, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's used as a back up/squad player which I think is the right approach.

    For me right now I'd roll with

    Muriel/Duvan/Villa
    James--------Quintero
    ----------Barrios

    The defense picks itself when everyone is healthy. I think Duvan and Muriel need to be starting based on how well they are playing and how perfectly they fit in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1.
     
  22. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Deco was the playmaker, Meireles was the utility player, Simao was the starting winger, Ronaldo was a winger but had freedom on the pitch, and Nani usually came off the bench if my memory serves me correctly.
     
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  23. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    To jeison’s credit, he was probably the lone bright side of the 15CA and was also the starting CB in the 16CA and some of the early 18WCQ so he is capable of being a big time contributor. Somewhere along the way last cycle, things went sideways for jeison.

    Maybe CQ wants to give him the confidence that he is going to be part of the NT plan this cycle.

    Truth of the matter is that there is no way that Davinson-Mina will feature in every game so perhaps CQ will feature Jeison as part of a rotation early on so that the team is ready for any potential combination of Jeison-Davinson; jeison-mina; mina-davinson

    After these three we also have zapata who, let’s face it, is a part time player and after that there is a drop off in quality/experience. perhaps CQ doesn’t rate Oscar that highly to be a part of the plans this cycle??
     
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  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #3624 HomietheClown, Mar 12, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2019
    Changing gears a little bit, the proposed Pre-Copa Bolivia friendly that I mentioned before is rumored to be played in another city other than Barranquilla.
    Futbolred is speculating that the match will be in Cali, Medellín or Pereira.

    I am happy that they are considering spreading the team around so that other regions can see them play.
     
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  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Incredible...nothing of scouting in this called up........

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