Pogba's form relies heavily on confidence. He struggled quite a bit in his last season with Juventus after the club lost Pirlo, Vidal, and Marchisio (to injury) and could not cope with the pressure which came with carrying a midfield (along with donning the #10 kit). His confidence was shot and he struggled for a while. However after the experienced Khedira and the leader of the midfield Marchisio returned, weight was taken off his shoulders, his confidence was slowly rebuilt, and we saw the best Pogboom in the second half of that season.
I don’t think he improved on this level. ligue1 and the lack of competition just made him look better 2015/16 Neymar is a beast and he would’ve walked away with the ballon dor in most other eras From Brazilians only in the last 20 or so years I’m only comfortable putting R9 ahead of this level He will in time benefit from the same type of revisionism that has embellished the legacies of so many noughties legends He is today a player in the same mould as Luis figo,Rivaldo,Thierry Henry etc His ceiling is higher but he may never reach that level I hate to say it but his career trajectory is typical of so many Brazilian talents that come to Europe I can’t think of one Brazilian generational talent that came to the European mainland and went the distance(excluding defensive players) They prioritise the good life over sacrifice and professionalism It’s alright for me to do that because I never had no delusions of grandeur or expectation of becoming a professional baller but when you have that kind of talent it’s simply a crime to waste it I couldn’t resist it’s probably my favourite movie of all time
Maybe the difference between 2015/2016 Messi and Neymar is the superior finishing for the argentine (and that was the reason I could put the 17/18 version of Neymar above of that 2015/2016), maybe they were closer in their levels than many people think here. Expected Non-PK Goals + Assists per 90: Neymar 2015/2016: 1.20 (Real Result: 1 Goal/Assist each 85 min) Messi 2015/2016: 1.25 (Real Result: 1 Goal/Assist each 65min) Expected Goals involved without counting Key Passes and shots per 90. Neymar 2015/2016: 0.65 Messi: 0.50 Messi was more prolific in his finishing ability, but Neymar was more involved in build up plays than Messi that season, he was more a creator, was done more outside of final passes and shots, and Messi was more a finisher but was done less than Neymar in the rest.
Was I pretending? Messi was the de facto playmaker of his team He averaged 3.5 long balls to Neymars 1.9 that is a notable difference we can do a little counting exercise if you like and calculate how many of Neymars goals came off Messi assists and pre assists during 2014/15 and 2015/16 The footage is available so it won’t be difficult I know what I saw 2016 isn’t that long ago We aren’t talking about Pele 70 or Cruyff 74 where stats can be helpful to build a better picture of how involved they were Also Not every chance is equal and matter of fact many of his KPG came of Messi long balls and all he did was play the easy lay off to Suarez who predictably missed missed most of the time As a long ball specialist and goalscorer he wasn’t just a bit better but significantly so These are two huge facets of the game Neymar was marginally better at other things(ie crossing and I think dribbling although that requires some looking into) At Paris Saint Germain Neymar 17/18 became a complete playmaker like dinho but mostly against obscure teams at the lower end of the spectrum (Check the defensive record of teams like Dijon 2018 Statistically his career best performance came against this team)
Neymar has been struggling a bit these last few seasons to play after the turn of the year and that has played a big role in him missing out at the CL. I think I have found out why this is occurring and if he can overcome this issue, next balon d'or is his. 1098225558742274049 is not a valid tweet id
Maybe xG Chains explains better the real involvement in his team goals... Since you don't know what is xG Chain90: Some links for you: https://www.americansocceranalysis....-the-link-between-passing-sequences-and-shots But--but he wasn't protagonist in Barcelona... Messi playmaykooo... Messi GOAT... Cristiano fastest player in all history.... LOOLOLOLOLOL
Tropiero I don’t mean to burst your bubble but you are talking to a brick wall I’ve told you numerous times I don’t care about advanced analytics, that is how you measure a players contribution but don’t attempt to force me to think like you You don’t watch games period (At least that much is clear now) Statistics without context are meaningless(just a bunch of numbers begging to be manipulated by guys like you)
When he slapped that womans ass in the recovery room I was thinking DAMN she’s a bit too old for him Only realised from the tweet you just posted that was his mum
1) It's not how I analyze the matches, it's how performance analysts, managers and buyers analyze the game. 2) Then watch the matches again. Often we watch a match with the expectation of seeing a player and we don't realize that sometimes another player was consistently more involved in the plays. But I do not blame them, many watch Barcelona just to see Messi. They don't have the exactly critical eye and then many things escape, that's way advanced information is important. 3) I know many people hates Neymar (level of "without Messi he would be nobody" to personal offenses), I know he is not charismatic like Maradona (perhaps no one was as charismatic as Maradona while possessing a huge potential as well), but his quality as a player is superlative, a TOP10 all timer in potential, another is that he fails to realize his potential and also the fact that even if he reach his expectations he will not be considered as such, but that is no longer my problem. Like you said and data approves, Neymar 15/16 was a beast, even tho he is still, STILL, at his peak.
Every week/day you change your stance The other day you claimed Neymar had the potential to be a top 15 all timer now it’s top 10 all time At 27 years old with 0 champions leagues as the main protagonist 0 World Cup semifinals 0 Copa America semifinals 0 European golden shoes Never lead in assists in any league he played a “goat 27 year old potential playmaker” who never assisted a single goal in any major SF or final he played Potential only stretches so far and right now we can probably say it’s a fact he will not reach that level Don’t forget players like zico couldn’t make top 10 because of failure in just the World Cup His copa libertadores 81 also shits on anything Neymar did in Brazil Zico 11 goals+4 assists in 14 matches(1981) Neymar 6 goals+ 3 assists in 13 games (2011,in the weakest era of Brazilian football) Compared to zico....Neymar is a football fake To Ronaldinho gaucho/Rivaldo/rivelino he is good but they are top 40 all time at MAX Still you are lucky I don’t place too much emphasis on NT performances Another critical poster can just claim you can never be a true legend of Brazilian football without a World Cup(and he would be right) Exception is only the 82 generation who left a performance we are still talking about till this day Neymar never left any genuis moments just dives and back injuries
Yes lol both are weird and from a European perspective touching your mother like that it is highly inappropriate. I think SA are more touchy-feely kind of people(in other countries for example men kiss each other on the lips-heterosexual men apparently who live in a country where it is punishable by death)http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.com/2014/05/males-in-iran-offended-by-kiss-on-cheek.html?m=1 This could of course just be the double standards of a totalitarian terrorist state or could be an example of customs that are strange by European standards
Damn bro. I know youre trying to make a point but I'm thinking if he was hit a couple of inches in a different direction he could have been done with the game. The dude got kneed and his back was broken.
I was pulling his leg(tropieros not Neymars it might snap lol) No seriously I like Neymar he is a phenomenal player in his own right. He just isn’t and never will have the potential of a top 10 player to ever kick a ball He is almost complete but lacking in his finishing and mentality(the latter is arguably even more important) He is also fragile(this is a fact) amd knowing his playing style he wouldn’t even survive 1 month in 1980s and 1990s Serie a Talent is nothing without application so how can you prove yourself in tough leagues if you can’t even handle the lax treatment of ligue 1 defenders the so called rough treatment in France is really just pushing and shoving NOT bone crunching tackles with intent to cause injury Most of the time his injuries are aggravated by his insatiable need to turn french defenders(who can’t defend)into his “guinea pigs” that he can test his circus tricks on In the EPL of Henry and CR he would not survive Period Especially at that time diving was apparently a new phenomenon brought by “foreigners” he’d have the media and away fans on his back every single match,hate campaigns,constant boos,potentially even racist chants (more likely in Italy TBH) English fans don’t hold back(like Italians) if they don’t like you then you’ll know about it for sure If he tried any fancy stuff against Roy Keane he might actually kill him(not kidding) We’re talking about a guy who admitted and was proud for having purposely ended someone’s career by breaking his leg Even the average defenders playing for lower PL teams could be thugs(check the injury of Eduardo da Silva playing for Arsenal) There was no such a thing as laying down against the big boys or the traditional top 4 A player like Henry had a particular running style which enabled him to jump over tackles He never went in for headers and with the ball was lightening quick(his on the ball strenght is a bit underrated aswell) Ronaldo had to bulk up considerably to withstand the tackles and by 09 it took its toll (When he went to Madrid he was still saying the PL was way more physical than La Liga) Today the PL is a joke But 10+years ago Neymar wouldn’t even consider joining (his agent would tell him forget about it)
You're right Neymar's fragile frame is his weakness. But he has been able to handle the physicality of Ligue 1 because...well ... he is scoring and assisting. Of course he gets fouled and complains about it, but that's not different than any other league he has played. Neymar Sr. told Neymar at a very young age that since everyone was bigger than him, he needed to protect himself or else he'd get hurt. One of the advices is don't go in on 50/50 balls because you're going to lose. And if you see a tackle coming go into the air before hand because you're leg won't be broken that way. It has shaped Neymar's behavior on the field. His analogy is that but a stick standing on the floor and you can snap it with a flick, up in the air you can't break it. I hope you don't think today's EPL is a joke because it's not as physical. Because players like Roy Keene, as good as they were in certain aspects, don't deserve to be on the field because of exactly what you mentioned. That behavior is worse than diving (and actually promotes diving).
If he played in the EPL he would’ve had to face Roy Keane and other no nonsense defenders Many of these guys weren’t ball players but unlike today they were skilled at their job(the art of defending) Yeah maybe the game is today being played as it should be but the fact remains Neymar is genetically built in a certain way I just posted a video earlier in which he is struggling to bench 50 kg on his chest(that was two 15 plates and an Olympic bar okay) He is fragile and today even with the protection of refs,VAR and the absence of even a single world class defender in France he can’t complete even 1 full season There is no doubt he would’ve been on the operating table for substantial periods if he played in the EPL 10+ years ago(and forced into early retirement in the 80s/90s Serie A)
Think you're exaggerating the violence (or physicality) of the EPL in the 90s and 00s. Juninho Paulista was very slight and did just fine at Middlesborough. Robinho actually did just fine at Man City till he lost motivation. What you see from Neymar a lot is he exaggerates the pain he shows when he is fouled. Unless he has some hyper sensitive nerve condition. I think the knee to the back from Zuniga could have happened to any player. It was more unfortunate than anything. His metatarsal injuries are no different than what other players have experienced including the strong built Rooney.
Juninho paulista And Robinho in the EPL were just normal players ok nothing special There is a story when Robinho signed for Manchester City he thought it was Manchester United He only found out when he got off the plane From this point there was no incentive to perform(Manchester city were nobodies without any expectations) Robinho Just milked them Arab sheiks till they realised they were carrying dead weight The point isn’t only re Neymars fragility These players you mentioned don’t have Neymars playing style(Robinho was similar to an extent but definitely NOT in England) Neymar without the flair,without the dribbling/sombreros/flicks/jogo bonito Isn’t Neymar He is productive alright but without the flair his output isn’t necessarily better than griezmann/salah for example Neymar would have to sacrifice his “xfactor” to survive in the EPL and without it he is arguably half the player Btw I’m talking about the EPL from Back then(today he would obviously walk it)
Why are you scared to say what you think tropiero Neymar is already better than CR(your words) CR is arguably greater than Cruyff(your words) Neymar>CR>cruyff You will not say but that’s what you think Next stop Neymar>maradona And it has already started with claims like Neymar was greater in SA for Santos than maradona was for boca And Argentinos Juniors I don’t think you’d go as far as Pele only because you worship that guy but Messi I’m not too sure