Borre better than Cucho? Borre still misses way too many in a worse league for me to say he is better. And with the splashy debut by Hernandez I will be surprised if he does not get called up for the next set of friendlies but once again not too shocked because I have no idea what the manager wants to do with all these options.
the performance since august (strat of season) of borre have been better than cucho .......yeah cucho have a lot of potential and maybe will be better than all our players in history.......but matches like he did yesterday havent been the rule during all the season..... I think that tthere is no need to speed up his participation in the NT, when a lot of forwards just have had better season
It is difficult to compare when one plays in Argentina on a good team and the other plays in Spain on the worst team. I think you have to throw the statistics out the window really. Is it speeding up the participation when he scored two goals in his debut? He did not look lost out there and you can just see something different about him. Borre still has not even played a minute for the Seleccion and I might even put Morelos ahead. I think Cucho deserves another chance with the roster immediately.
En este momento Borre es más que Cucho, la gente se deja llevar por los goles en un amistoso contra Costa Rica. Para mi ni juegan la misma posición, fácilmente pueden jugar juntos pero tampoco su nivel a estado para tanto elogio que le dan.
Is so funny how you always try to decide which factors I HAVE TO USED when i analyse a situation, if your point doesnt is valid by it. actually im not using statistic only. Borre have became immovable in the champion of america and was pivotal for the title........his impact have been really big and when he doesnt scored or assitis was still important in play.........Yeah but please if you dont agree dont pretend that you decide for me what factors i have to used to make a point........ If Hernandez matches would be like yesterday more often............i think that i will be more sure about his called up..........but not always have been, yeah he have tried hard in other matches and have shown interest things. For me the two goals agaisnt costa rica in november shouldnt mean an autommatic pass to a callled up.....because of that "prontoculismo" we have had make a lot of mistakes with young players like marlos that debut in a difficult match agisnt bolivia and was important for the win....but then in copa america some moths after it seems he wasnt prepared.
Si todos los fines de semana saliera ovacionado como ayer, yo hasta compro la idea.........pero en verdad es que no ha podido hacerlo, por mas potencial que muestre.
You take things way too personal. I am not telling you any factors you have to use. I am telling you the way I see it. It is difficult for me to compare someone who plays in one of the best teams of Argentina to a guy who is playing in the wost team of Spain. Cucho just seems to add something different that the others in the player pool do not provide and I think with the way he played in his debut should be given a chance. Even if it was Costa Rica it does not matter. He provided a spark off the bench and seemed to play well with Cuadrado.
Why you guys always have to be so belligerent... Why not be Happy that we have a variety of good forwards with incredible work rate? They all have flaws but are Young enough to improve on them. Morelos, Cucho and Borre have improved massively in the last two years and I don't see a reason why they will stop improving.
Hay muchas opciones pero solo pueden jugar 11, y se que este debate más tarde que temprano va tener relevancia cada uno tiene sus preferencias. It’s a good problem to have.
If cucho goes, it'll be to involve him in the process for Qatar. Not because he has earned it. And I'm ok with that if he goes. He has potential and could be our future star. I'm ok developing him But as of right now Duvan Muriel Falcao Borre And the last spot between borja and Cucho
I respect you opinion and others' opinions. Obviously I disagree with your list and what the definition of "earn" is. I think Cucho has earned at least a chance to show what he can do in March after his impact in October. But once again I have no idea what the new manager thinks of him or any of our players for that matter. And if Reyes is his helper as some in the media are mentioning then there will be some cross over from his ideas and the new guy's ideas of who has looked good not only in club matches but in recent training camps and Seleccion matches I imagine. Or Queiroz may do what Crzd and others have been wanting for years calling up a team with 30 or more players and seeing how things go. We all are just trying to give opinions here and March can't come soon enough.
Right now top strikers for me are Duvan, beast Borre, season has barely started, ended last year with a bang. Can play next to or behind a target man. Falcao, he's still scoring for a sorry Monaco team. Muriel, starting to score for Fiorentina, nonexistent in Sevilla. Borja, top goal scorer of Copa Liberatores. Cucho, inconsistent, but talented.
I think Borre has made huge strides, but I'd agree its impossible to compare Cucho and Borre because of their teams and leagues. Another issue for me is that the formations that I think we should play its hard to see for me Borre being a great fit since he can't play alone up top and since he can't play as a wide forward. Cucho can play every forward position, and is really the only player who can play as a false 9. That's for me what makes Cucho so attractive, he's very versatile, Borre deserves a shot on merit but based on what the players and formations I think we're likely to use I think its going to be harder for him to break through. Borja, Duvan are better 9's and can play alone up top, Muriel and Cucho can play wide and as second strikers. And imo Cucho then Muriel are the ones who can play as a false 9, but Cucho is the one who's best suited for that imo and Muriel is really suited perfectly to play wide off a false 9.
I think it depends on the formation Queiroz wants to align. Borre is an ideal second second striker in a 4-4-2 formation. His playing style reminds me of Benzema and TeoDios.
TeoDios still playing in that intergalactic league? - he’s like a modern day Flash Gordon Savior of the universe
Yeah he is, I would be really surprised if we played a 4-4-2 though. We played a 4-4-2 because it fit our players, and for the most part we had to play that system to use Falcao correctly because he was such an important player and really was at his best in that formation. What allowed us to play like that was also having 2 wingbacks basically who were perfectly suited to provide width. Since 2014 our fullbacks have not been able to recreate what Armero and Zuniga gave us in that system and Falcao is not the same player he was when we played a 4-4-2. On top of all that I'd be surprised if Quiroz played a formation that is that all out attacking, hasn't been his style anywhere he's coached up to now.
Cucho getting 30 minutes to a full half in each of the March friendlies could be a good way to determine U20 or CA
I think that he must be in the squad for the Copa America. He is the kind of player like Quintero, who doesn't have to be a part of the process yet still can contribute due to his skills. I want him in the CA than the sub-20.
I'd rather see him in the sub 20 team, we have so many attacking players already. Falcao, Duvan, Borre, Borja.. they all want to play. In the sub-20 team Cucho could play 90 mins every match.
I agree 100%. Also at 19, he's got potentially 2020, 2024, 2028 and 2032 CA to play for in addition to Olympics, etc
I think he should be involved in the friendlies and then the coach needs to judge based on that. If he thinks he'll be an integral part of the senior squad right away then he should go to the Copa America and use that tournament as preparation for the WCQ's. I think there's a good chance especially with Cuadrado just coming back from injury and Villa currently frozen out at Boca that Cucho could be currently first choice for a wide attacker in a 4-3-3, even if those other two get back up to speed quickly I think there's a really good chance that could be Cucho's spot in a year when the crucial games come up and in that case its important to integrate all the players into a cohesive unit with the senior team. If that's not the case and the coach doesn't think he's ready then by all means he should go and tear up the U-20's.