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  1. Naboomagnoli

    Naboomagnoli Member+

    May 31, 2007
    To clarify, it was called off for the night. The search is still ongoing.
     
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  2. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
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    On loan, eh? Interesting . . .
     
  3. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Part of that is Poch and part of that is circumstances. He's very particular about what he needs from players to integrate, but he's integrated a bunch of players recently at FB and in midfield and even up front. Guys like Walker-Peters and Winks, Moura and Lamela and Dier are their rotation options.

    I think he can do better, but I also think they lack options. Injuries are also likely to happen given their high intensity style and small squad.
     
  4. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
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    I am not objective admittedly. Think I am biased on this one :(
     
  5. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    PSG are really desperate for midfielders at this time, with the strong possibility that Marquinhos and Draxler or ADM could be chosen pairing in midfield when the CL resumes against us (Verratti, Diarra and Rabiot all look to be unavailable).
    As such, they are linked with a host of midfielders, the latest being Renato Sanches, according to RMC.
     
  6. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    De Jong to Barca for 90 mil. Lots of reliable sources now confirming.
     
  7. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    I PRAY they start Renato against us. He'd be eaten alive.
     
  8. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    As of today, this is the team that PSG would put out against us for the first leg:
    Buffon/Areola
    Kehrer. Thiago Silva. Kimpenbe
    Meunier. Marquinhos. Draxler/ADM. Bernat
    Mbappe. Cavani. Neymar

    We know that their front 3 is All-World and the obvious source of worry, but the rest of the team is hardly impressive, especially that midfield (that's how desperate they are there, entirely comprised of guys playing out of position).
     
  9. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    De Jong to Barca now official. Apparently they are paying him 16 mil a year net. How is their wage structure sustainable?
     
  10. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Good move. Cant even front.
     
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  11. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Saw the fee, 75 rising to 86 - which I thought was fair business given his standing in the game. He passes the eye-test, but this signing is really about analytics. His numbers are incredible and they give Barca the confidence to spend that kind of scratch on someone direct from Eredivisie.
     
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  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    I agree that he fits them perfectly. I was just a little shocked by the price and especially the wages. Even in this market that's a hefty price for a kid who's unproven in a top league. But I'm a huge fan and I think he could be special.

    Side note, we should be all in on De Ligt.
     
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  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
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    De Jong's signing with Barca is perfect for them, timing wise as well. Busquets is 30 now and while he's still a top holding mid in the game, he hasn't been at his consistent best in the past year or so. Barca will have the option to move him in a year or in the summer of 2020 to clear out some salary and the way for de Jong officially.
    Smart move on his part in terms of his career too. He'd progress only so much in Ligue Un with PSG, whereas Barca will make absolutely elite in relatively short order.
     
  14. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    This is going to be interesting. He is gonma have more suitors than De Jong!
     
  15. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    Whatever amount we're willing to spend on Koulibaly we should use towards De Ligt. Koulibaly is better right now but De Ligt's ceiling is sky high and hes 8 years younger.
     
  16. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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  17. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    The hesitation I have with De Light is that signing him would be curtains for Tuanzebe and he's not been given a shot. The exception being if we would sell Jones, Rojo and Smalling somehow and bring in De Light. We'd then have Bailly/Lindelof/DeLight/Tuanzebe - which would be good, but we'd be making somebody really unhappy for a long time.

    I'd feel for Tuanzebe because he's done everything asked of him, every step of the way.


    EDIT:

    VDS for DOF is a non-starter, he's said he's not interested in the job. Who can blame him, he's CEO a higher role at a job at the club of his youth. Cannot actually beat that. He might be lured away in a few years, but he's gonna want to win some trophies first I'm sure.
     
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  18. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I agree.
     
  19. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    I disagree. Jones and Rojo have had enough chances and are clearly not MUQ. They both need to go. Bring in De Ligt and let him compete for a starting role with Bailly and Smalling alongside Lindelof. Tuanzebe can spend a season being the 4th or 5th choice. With Smalling and Baillys injury history, he'll get more games than you think.
     
  20. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Manchester United FC
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    --other--
    I'm all for selling Jones and Rojo, but if those are our only CB departures, we'll have 4 CBs with first team experience AND Tuanzebe. There'll be no playing time for him at all. We may as well loan him out to a Newcastle or Soton level team.
     
  21. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    As far as the de Jong deals goes, it's also worth noting the excellent job from Barca to completely rejuvenate their midfield in a major way for years to come in just 6mos. Last year at this time, the question and worry was what they'll do in that department (and how Busquets and Rakitic will be replaced).
    Question answered and in a very definitive way with the arrivals of Artur and in the summer, de Jong. Their set for a long time there potentially.
     
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  22. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Im with it.
     
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  23. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Piatek to AC Milan is done

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/46976744

    A terrific move from Milan on 2 fronts (signing a young, very productive striker, plus getting rid of Higuain in the process).
    Speaking of Higuain, that move is done as well, according to Sarri.
     
  24. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    Higuain better hit the ground running or Chelsea are going to struggle to stay top 4.
     
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  25. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The system (was at his best under Sarri at Napoli) and having Hazard in his rightful place feeding the ball and opening space for him, will be huge for Higuain.
    That being said, did not realize how poor he's been so far this season as well. Will be interesting to see how it goes for him in the Prem.
     

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