Saudi Arabia Pro League 18-19 assignments and discussion [R]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by balu, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. NW Referee

    NW Referee Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    Washington
    This whole situation is disappointing on so many levels. Typical Saudi attitude to buy something rather than trust their own people.
     
  2. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who figured this would become one of the most interesting assigning threads?
     
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  3. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Glad I started it :D
     
  4. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    December 29

    Al Ittifaq - Al Ittihad
    Milorad Mazic (SRB), Milovan Ristic (SRB), Danijel Djurdjevic (SRB), Kevin Blom (NED)
     
  5. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    December 30

    Ohod - Al Raed
    Viktor Kassai (HUN), Gyorgy Ring (HUN), Vencel Toth (HUN), Istvan Vad (HUN)

    Al Taawon - Al Hilal
    Danny Makkelie (NED), Mario Diks (NED), Hessel Steegstra (NED), Danijel Djurdjevic (SRB)

    Typical UCL night in Saudi Arabia, in refereeing terms.
     
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Comparatively speaking, there are A LOT of red cards in this Saudi league from the same referees who barely give any in the UCL.
     
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  7. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Does that mean the Saudi instructions are stricter, play is dirtier there, or the referees feel they have more freedom to use the red card? :)
     
  8. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
  9. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I admittedly am only getting to watch clips, but my take is that it's mostly #2 and #3. I've seen some softer 2CTs but I've also seen far less discipline.

    To be both fair and clear, the red card highlights I'm seeing are mostly 2CT and DOGSO. So I'm not trying to claim that UCL referees have a different calibration for SFP when they are in Saudi Arabia.
     
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  10. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    January 10

    Al Faisaly - Al Nassr
    Szymon Marciniak (POL), Pawel Sokolnicki (POL), Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL), Tomasz Marciniak (POL)

    Al Taawon - Al Hazm
    Svein Oddvar Moen (NOR), Kim Haglund (NOR), Magnus Lundberg (NOR), Majed Al Shamrani (KSA)

    Al Wahda - Al Fateh
    Viktor Kassai (HUN), Gyorgy Ring (HUN), Peter Berettyan (HUN), Adam Farkas (HUN)

    Al Quasidiya - Al Ittihad
    Mark Clattenburg (ENG), Jake Collin (ENG), Bader Al Shamrani (KSA), Radu Petrescu (ROU)
     
  11. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    January 11

    Al Hilal - Al Raed
    Damir Skomina (SVN), Jure Praprotnik (SVN), Robert Vukan (SVN), Gyorgy Ring (HUN)

    Al Shabab - Al Feiha
    Pawel Raczkowski (POL), Pawel Sokolnicki (POL), Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL), Tomasz Marciniak (POL)

    Al Batin - Al Ittifaq
    Pavel Kralovec (CZE), Ivo Nadvornik (CZE), Tomas Mokrusch (CZE), Shukri Al Hanfosh (KSA)

    Al Ahli - Ohod
    Paulo Silvio Mazzoleni (ITA), Mauro Vivenzi (ITA), Filippo Valeriani (ITA), Piero Giacomelli (ITA)

    Mazzoleni makes the debut for Italian referees. Local referees starting to be used in the AR/4O roles. Will they be used in the center any time soon?
     
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  12. fischietto

    fischietto Member

    Apr 13, 2018
    I was curious about Mazzoleni’s appointment. I think maybe he’s taking advantage of a little time out of the spotlight after a very controversial Inter-Napoli on Boxing Day. He received a lot of criticism for not responding to racist chants directed toward Koulibaly.

    My other thought was maybe the crew would be used for the Supercoppa game being played 1/16 in Jedda (Milan-Juventus). But I was wrong about that - it’s been assigned to Luca Banti, with Guida as VAR.
     
  13. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your first instinct is correct. But it's more like "given" rather than "taking." The Italian federation had thus far refused to send referees to Saudi Arabia. They relented and used it as a place for Mazzoleni to have some down time.
     
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  14. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    King's Cup Round of 16

    Al Feiha - Al Nassr
    Ovidiu Hategan (ROU), Octavian Sovre (ROU), Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU), Stefan Kovacs (ROU)

    Al Taqdom - Al Ittihad
    Khaled Saleh Al Taries (KSA), Faisal Al Qahtani (KSA), Omar Al Jamel (KSA), Mohammed Al Nuhait (KSA)

    Al Hilal - Al Faisaly
    Milorad Mazic (SRB), Milovan Ristic (SRB), Dalibor Djurdjevic (SRB), Nemanja Petrovic (SRB)

    A mix of Elite UEFA and Saudi referees for the Round of 16.
     
  15. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Al Batin - Al Raed

    Shukri Al Hanfosh (KSA), Mohammad Al Wahimer (KSA), Saad Al-Subaiee (KSA), Khaled Salwi (KSA)

    Abha - Al Jeel

    Faisal Alblwi (KSA), Bader Al Shamrani (KSA), Hisham Al Refai (KSA), Turki Al-Hashlan (KSA)

    Two Saudi crews for today's Round of 16 matches. Who saw that coming? :)
     
  16. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this during the required UEFA seminar in Portugal?
     
  17. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    It was on January 22.
     
  18. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seminar is next week, so no. Interesting.
     
  19. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Al Taawon - Al Shabab

    Ovidiu Hategan (ROU), Octavian Sovre (ROU), Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU), Stefan Kovacs (ROU)

    Al Qaisoma - Al Ittifaq

    Mohammad Al Hoaish (KSA), Yasser Al Sultan (KSA), Majed Al Nasser (KSA), Naif Al Morekhi (KSA)

    Al Ahli - Al Wahda

    Milorad Mazic (SRB), Milovan Ristic (SRB), Dalibor Djurdjevic (SRB), Nemanja Petrovic (SRB)

    Hategan and Mazic with two R16 matches each, with the remaining four matches going to Saudi crews.
     
  20. fischietto

    fischietto Member

    Apr 13, 2018
    Any guess what a Saudi Arabian holiday is earning these top referees?
     
  21. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    27 January 2019

    Al Feiha - Al Hilal

    Kevin Blom (NED), Bakary Camara (GAM), El Hadji Malick Samba (SEN), Nenad Dokic (SRB)

    Al Fateh - Al Quasidiya

    Mohammed Al Hoaish (KSA), Bader Al Shamrani (KSA), Khalaf Al Shamari (KSA), Faisal Alblwi (KSA)

    First Saudi crew in the league for a very long time. African assistants being used as well.
     
  22. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    January 28

    Al Batin - Al Faisaly

    Khaled Al Teris (KSA), Faisal Al Qahtani (KSA), Hisham Al Refai (KSA), Sultan Al-Harbi (KSA)

    Al Nassr - Ohod

    Svein Oddvar Moen (NOR), Kim Haglund (NOR), Magnus Lundberg (NOR), Nenad Dokic (SRB)

    Al Wahda - Al Hazm

    Daniel Stefanski (POL), Marcin Boniek (POL), Radoslav Siejka (POL), Ivan Bebek (CRO)

    Al Taawon - Al Ahli

    Mark Clattenburg (ENG), Johnathan Bryant (WAL), Ian Bird (WAL), Danilo Grujic (SRB)

    Another Saudi crew in action.
     
  23. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    January 29

    Al Raed - Al Ittifaq
    Simon Lee Evans (WAL), Johnathan Bryan (WAL), Ian Bird (WAL), Sami Al Jires (KSA)

    Al Ittihad - Al Shabab
    Bakary Gassama (GAM), Djibril Camara (SEN), El Hadji Malick Samba (SEN), Ivan Bebek (CRO)

    Gassama makes a debut for African referees.
     
  24. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Oh boy... and who is that guy in the suit he does the second OFR with? And letting the coaches surround him... it appears he’s not quite what he used to be.
     

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