Racism...Forever?

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    #8426 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Jan 22, 2019
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    And his supporters suffered from
    economische angst.
     
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  2. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Pooh pooh away my man.

    1087733862283776003 is not a valid tweet id
     
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Said every accused priest
     
  4. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    I still don't understand how these numpties are going to the White House AND are the victims in some circles.
     
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  5. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    If you think on it hard enough, I'm sure you can come up with the white answer.
     
  6. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    A 6 second clip with even less context. Thanks raza, that really clears things up.
     
  7. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It doesn't matter anymore. They got a PR firm to help their image. The statements from a reporter covering the Native American march and others who saw the incident and were unaffiliated to any of the parties didn't matter.

    The easiest way to actually see what happened in the student group is for the students to release the videos they were taking on their phones. (If this is actually what people wanted). It would have easily exonerated them for what they were saying/supposedly doing. A lot of them had phones shooting video. We are never going to see that and it is usually the easiest way to disprove something. They are basically the equivalent of cops with a bodycam being accused of something and deciding not to show bodycam footage that would easily exonerate them.

    That being said, I don't think any lawyer would allow those videos to surface.

    * Is the attached video actually Covington Students or just kids from Cincinnati?
     
  8. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia


    So much blush
     
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  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Go ahead. Spin that positively.
     
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  10. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Why? It is a 6 second clip that I know nothing about. Here's the only thing I can take from it... high school kids do say stupid things sometimes.
     
  11. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    He's missing his lucky red hat!
     
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  12. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
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    Univ de Chile
    You are consistent, If nothing else.
     
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  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  14. Did you miss the post about his party being the second largest among the Surinam people, the same people fighting racist Zwarte Piet?
    Or does it not fit the narrative.
    To keep things clear, I'm against Wilders and his party and his ideas. It doesnot help however when people, especially from abroad, labelling him and his party with false signatures.
     
  15. We're on our way to the plane. Thanks for inviting us.
     
  16. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The wildest part of this is still that the story changes because they were "approached".

    They are basically using the Aqib Talib playbook of "I snatched the chain because he put the chain in my face. "

    The second most absurd is that the first statement from the "accused" came from a mother who put the blame on "black muslims" and no one batted an eye.

    At the beginning, I thought it was a bunch of kids acting idiotic and following the current "culture" a group of people. I thought they would get a slap on the wrist, apologize, and move on. I was uncomfortable with the active search to find identities because eventually it would come out through verified media.

    Now, it's the "he stepped to us so we stepped to him" like this is West Side Story. Why would he think that Native Americans and the black israelites were joining forces? Is it because they were not white? Isn't that a problem?
     
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  17. As I posted:
    The neighbourhood I grew up in was built in 1954. It was the time when, after the WWII and the German bombing, housing was in a big shortness of supply. So much that along the dike in my neighbourhood young couples lived in temporary make shift housing in railway carriages. The neighbourhood consisted of blue collar workers in majority. Those Surinam friends of my parents actually were compared to the rest upper class/upper class income.
    We were blue collar family too. In our hood there were apart from Surinam people, also people from the former Dutch Indies colony. Of those several were married to white women too. A friend of mine from such a family was white and blond, while his younger sister was milk choclate brown with black hair.
    There was no segregation in housing, no segregation in the schools and no segregation in marriages. The marriages of the Surinam friends of my parents must have been from around 1930 - 1940 or so, given the age of their children at that time. (There were more Surinam people in the hood, but not within the circle of friends)
    In fact, the first time I learned about racism, I think I posted it in here some time ago already, was in the sixties as a kid of about 11 years old and it was from the States. On the news there was an item about New York, where white people were demonstrating and picketing in protest and in an attempt to prevent a black teacher to get a house in their neighbourhood. The most baffling thing to me was the old Jewish woman, who found it terrible that after she escaped alive from German extermination camp to have to deal with this, a black family in her hood.
    That was new to me and in complete contrast to my own environment. It made such an impact on me that up to this day I remember it.

    So this is the environment I lived in in 1950ies, the time where black men were lynched in the States when accused by a white woman of looking at her or bumping against her, with coloured people married with white women in a non segregated environment.
    And this was the same all over the Netherlands.

    By the way, as this is a soccer board, the youngest son of that Surinam family of the retired marine officer later became the first non Japanese coach of the Japan national team. He was quite popular in my hood as he was a player for a time for Feyenoord.
     
  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    1. "Thanks, Obama"
    2. I think you know the answer to that question is "Yes."
     
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  19. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I remember Sikhs being persecuted and killed by Americans because they were thought to be Muslims. I thought at the time that the ignorance and stupidity was aberrant but it seems now to be closer to universal.

    You'd think the 6 pointed star that the black muslims sport might have clued you in that they were not muslim.
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The idea that people identifying with Israel could be considered "Muslim" is laughable, if it weren't such a sad indictment of the mentality of Whitelandia. Just like the guy in Kansas who murdered a Hindu Indian man because he wanted all the Muslims to go back to Eye-ran.

    EDIT: Song just beat me to it.
     
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  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most media have come around and issued corrections or apologies, it is social media that continues to drive the initial narrative.

    the Black Hebrew Israelites are a hate organization, everyone knows that except the high school dudes it seems. real media has noted their participation.

    Like I said before, no good people in the story, the BHI are racist assholes, Phillips should have not gotten to the face of a high school kid, and the catholic school kids should have not engaged in racist chants against the Native American group.

    Then there are the chaperones, they really fvcked up.
     
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  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Her and Obama have something similar, I can not think what at this moment. (insert sarcastic face)
     
  23. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #8448 Bootsy Collins, Jan 23, 2019
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    The mom referred to them as black muslims? Where did you see that? I hadn't seen that. That's pretty ignorant, if so.
     
  24. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Somebody please tell me how that Jacob Wohl tweet could possibly make sense. Thanks in advance.
     
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  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw it too. It was the first counternarrative out there, that the BHI people were very verbally abusive to the Covington boys.
     
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