Chelsea vs Arse

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by yasik19, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A little masochism never hurt nobody
     
  2. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    it’s fascinating isn’t it?
     
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  3. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    It gets worse. Sarri’s post-match quotes through a translator are something else.

    "This group of players is extremely difficult to motivate. As a group of players they are not particularly aggressive from a mental point of view, they don’t have the ferocity.
    This is a team that is never going to be a team well known for its battling and fighting qualities .. these are not characteristics we have.”

    Higuain isn’t going to solve this.
     
  4. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Sarri was livid in the post match. But he is right. These group of players only play when they want to, be it under any manager.
     
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  5. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Those were my thoughts as I was watching the match.. Outside of Dave and occasionally Luiz, we got very little fire.
     
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  6. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Is a lack of competition for spots ruining this team? These guys know they’re basically all untouchable. They lose motivation really easily.
     
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  7. addicted2chelsea

    Nov 11, 2007
    Australia
    Glad we can send Kovacic back... really doesn't offer a lot of threat from midfield.

    Alonso needs a break, Emerson looks great when given the chance.

    We need a striker, but I won't harp on about that.

    We are so far off where this club needs to be.
     
  8. JimWharton

    JimWharton Member+

    Feb 25, 2017
    It also sounds like a little bit of a cop out for a manager. “My system is great, the players just don’t play hard enough.”

    I’ve never understood playing players out of position. Kante was one of the 1-2 best players on two PL winning teams and a WC...at defensive mid. Jorghino is really good at passing sideways and fouling people. Hazard is stifled up front. Play your best players in their best positions.

    I think I’m just more of a fan of coaches who take the players they have and make them great. Sarri seems like a system guy. When it doesn’t work, it will always be the players fault.
     
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  9. Dr_Intoxicated

    Dr_Intoxicated Member+

    Sep 10, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I don't think that Jorghino is even good at passing back or sideways when he is not passing to the opposition he is providing hospital passes to his teammates.

    He then proceeds to point out what they should have done.
     
  10. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Sarri has a point but then again he plays the same 11 every match in the same way, in the same wrong spots regardless of any other factors. If you need to drill in a hex head bolt, its the craftsman not the tools at fault if every time you pull out only a soft mallet and hit the bolt only on the side gently over and over.

    Funny the players were lauded as battlers in Jose the sequel season 1, and Conti Season 1, then not at all in each season 2 so they bear a lot of blame as well We do need to add some fire and physicality in several spots.

    Has the page gone out to Guus yet:cautious:
     
  11. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    While I agree with the general sentiment, all coaches have their own style of play and favorites. Even pep needed 500M dollars to get where he is now. Which coach would you say can adapt 100% to his players? They are coaches, not magicians. We have had no top goal scorers for 4-5 years now. When we had Costa and Hazard, we won the league. No matter the system, we need people who can score. For people questioning Hazard's commitment, the guy has 10 goals and 10 assists. It would be good if somebody else can at least support him.

    That said, we really should scrap this Hazard as false 9 experiment. Maybe Morata's head wasn't in place yesterday but at least Giroud should have started. Kante, while not his WC best has been slowly adapting to his new role. He did mention Jorginho has been struggling recently but he has no one to replace him with.

    He needs to start dropping under performing players though. Emerson has been decent every time he has come on. Why does Alonso start over him every time? Odoi needs to get more than his customary 10 mins. Our problem has been the same as every other year. No competition and players get complacent.
     
  12. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    Here’s a wild idea-play our two world class players in their actual positions instead of this square peg-round hold nonsense.

    At this point I’m willing to try out the old Carlo diamond with Kante at the base, Kovacic on the left (preferably a healthy RLC instead), Barkley on the right, Jorginho up top, and Hazard and and striker up top.
     
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  13. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking this a few weeks back. We don't have the right players for a 433 but a diamond we have perfectly.
     
  14. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  15. JimWharton

    JimWharton Member+

    Feb 25, 2017
    There’s a difference between having preferences, or a theory about how to play football and being a system guy. Mark Dantonio is a system guy. Rich Rodriguez was a system guy. They will live or die by their system no matter what players they have. It’s a fair point about Pep. Maybe after 1-2 windows (if we get them), Sarri will have the pieces in place and everything will be hunky dory.

    I honestly don’t know which kind of coach he is, but playing guys out of position and rarely rotating the squad makes me nervous.
     
  16. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    i think a proper striker makes up 80% of the fix for us. a lot of things still look good about this side until they get in the final third. not having scoring threat basically kills the entire process and system and how the other team can play.

    i'm not entirely sure Higuain is the answer, but if he can be a threat, it at least makes the other team think about things more, maybe doubt their aggressiveness, etc. it changes the entire dynamic of how a game can actually play out. people are playing a diamond against us because all they have to do it pack the middle.
     
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  17. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Completely agreed. Also, it pushes Hazard out wide where he is lethal.
     
  18. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The best thing it will do is at least get Hazard to a more natural spot, but even if Hig is the real deal (and that would help a fair bit) we still have a tired sussed out man marked Jorginho the ball has to go through, and two more midfielders who are not scoring threats.

    A great striker will turn some draws into wins, a very good thing, covering some flaws, but defensively and overall the team and System still will need a lot of fixing
     

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