Saved the Crew

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  1. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is spot on. They can't promote the hell out of it and put it on in primetime like the NFL or NBA draft because even the top 1% of MLS fans have no idea who any of these guys are. There are maybe 100 people in the country not being paid as part of their job who follow college soccer closely enough to have a inkling of insight into what the 100+ players available could offer.

    It never had any media significance and has now lost nearly all of it's significance in roster building. Why do it?
     
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  2. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Andy's definitely been downgraded. It's curious how some figures who were taught to me as heroes are now villains in the same classroom a few decades later.
     
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  4. Ueberjames

    Ueberjames Member+

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 28, 2009
    Stow, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    History is complicated.
     
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  5. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Sometimes. I can't imagine Mr Jackson has done anything in the past thirty years so it depends on what the teachers want to teach and what they want to ignore.
     
  7. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andrew Jackson was a piece of shit and he needs to be dropped from the $20.

    Here's the crazy thing, though: He was a piece of shit EVEN BY THE MEAGER STANDARDS OF THE 1820s.
     
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  8. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one that gets me is the "ant and the grasshopper" fable, which is now taught 180 deg from how it was taught when I was a kid.

    But given the turn this is starting to make into politics (even 1820s politics), I'll refrain from replying further.
     
  9. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    I don't know this one. Tell me a story, Uncle kg.
     
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  10. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Stop yelling at me.

    The point isn't what he was it's how he's portrayed.
     
  11. Belgrano

    Belgrano Member

    Mar 5, 2014
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    History is complicated.

    Exhibit A:
     
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  12. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently they all met for lunch and got hammered

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    Should we do the "Guillermo" chant when we play the Gals this year, or nah? I vote yes.

    Maybe we only do it if he comes over to the Nordecke after the game.
     
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  15. Ueberjames

    Ueberjames Member+

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 28, 2009
    Stow, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a certain geeky, wonkishness to this stuff (which I can't help but be drawn to), but the way I see it is that certainly this has to do with the ending average attendance number, but also the percentage of tickets sold and the fact that some teams manage 100+%.

    These numbers on Wikipedia haven't been updated for 2018:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance

    But if you look at the 2017 stats, and sort by Percent Capacity, you see:

    SJ in an 18K capacity stadium averaging 19,875 (110.4% capacity)
    KC in a 18,457 capacity stadium, averaging 19,537 (105.8% capacity)

    And, of course, these clubs exceed 100% capacity because (1) they have huge demand that's reflected in their season ticket sales and, (2) their stadiums are designed to accommodate standing room crowds.

    We know that Mapfre's capacity is 19,968, but our sell-outs end up being slightly over 20K. I honestly have no idea what the actual standing room capacity of Mapfre is. Does anyone in here?

    My guess is that Providence Park in Portland hasn't had the ability to take in standing room crowds, so the Timbers' attendance matches the max capacity of their stadium. That'll change this year when they open up those extra 4,000 seats. But even then, I wonder the extent to which such an old stadium on a small downtown site will be able to go beyond their new 25K capacity, regardless of demand.

    My point being, a modern stadium can be designed to comfortably accommodate more fans than its stated capacity might imply. I assume our new home will be designed to do this, as well. Personally,I don't want a 25-26K seat stadium that only occasionally sells out. I want a 20-22K stadium that routinely sells out, and where our Percent Capacity stat is 95+%.

    By the way, when we compare our season ticket totals to those of other teams, it's sobering to realize that Portland has had a 13,000 season ticket waiting list (on top of their 15,000 season ticket base); that SKC has a 14K season ticket base and a waiting list of 4,500. I don't have recent stats, but in 2016 SJ had 13,000 season ticket holders and a 2,000 wait list. Last April, Minnesota announced it had reached its max of 14,500 season tickets and was starting a wait list.

    We do have some work to do, my friends, to get into that neighborhood.
     
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  17. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    From a prospective of advancing American interest he was a hero. Like Alexander the Great for Greece, Khan for Mongolia, Cesar for Rome. By today's standards all of these men are war criminals. The simple fact is America would not be the global power it is today if we had not brutally taken land away. But that is true of all great world powers.
     
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  18. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
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  19. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have lots of scarves from various soccer teams, etc., but this picture just makes the scarf thing... i don't even know what to call it, but it looks awful.
     
  20. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018

    No Austin scarf?
     
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  21. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't have a coach.
     
  22. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Might be able to find one of those free ones at a goodwill down in Austin by now.
     
  23. shoplifter

    shoplifter Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    or a team
     
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  24. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Only Petke can handle his booze, look that side eye, he know's what's up. ;)
     
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  25. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weeeel, I think Wikipedia has been influenced to some extent by current thinking. The alternate interpretation is mostly from one French writer of the 17th century plus some current re-interpretations. But you wouldn't have seen that when I was a kid--just the one from Aesop (but there might have been a version on Rocky and Bullwinkle, which likely would have been on the subversive side).

    But I concur with your comment about the grasshopper....;)
     

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