Our societies structure is wealth based. For the majority and speaking as a son of immigrants who strugglled for a better life for themselves and so their children would get an education which leads to a good paying job which in turn excludes many industries required for a functional economy. That being said a capitalist system absolutely requires an inexpensive and even uneducated labor force that a controlled flow of immigrants permits. There is a balance here that must be achieved to permit stability across the wage/educational brackets that maintains the economy. A hard swing in either direction cause massive social economic issues. The voting, paying taxes and access to social services are all things that can be scheduled and amended. I'm not saying all the facets should be fast tracked. I'm saying the process should be clear, organized and controlled. Remember these people will buy houses, cars and junk too. They won't be beneficial to us in any other scenario.
Was what I wrote difficult to understand? I stated how the "flooding" and "invaders" had to be controlled, organized and put to use for the better of our society. Where are the social justice warriors @totti fan when countries decide that they can influence the rule of law? How come they're not demanding the release of political prisoners? The “liberal international order” is failing without American support. Countries like Germany and England can't even protect themselves by increasing their NATO financial requirements. The Art of War by Niccolo Machiavelli describes some of the perils and challenges the Western world is doomed to suffer.
Michael Cohen is a total loser. It’s a lawyers duty to advise his client and do what’s right. That’s why he was hired and paid! This guy should be disbarred , jailed and hung!
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...bsequent-violence_us_5766c7ebe4b0092652d7a138 https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/honduras-a-political-crisis-rooted-in-us-meddling-14265 https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/opinion/in-honduras-a-mess-helped-by-the-us.html As a Honduran.. do you really wanna go down this rabbit hole?
So controlled migration into Europe to broaden the tax base, increase competition and drive down wages you are in favour of? And I know you were talking about America, but does it apply to Europe as well in your view?
They also cost their host counties millions, and in the case of Germany, billions of Euros. Are a massive strain on the social system, commit a disproportionate amount of crime and just generally destabilize their adopted societies. But yeah, as long as they buy shit.
Name me one case where large scale immigration did not bring about crime and strain on social services? Irish brought their crime and gangs to the US as did the Jews, Italians, and so on and fourth. Now the real issue is not immigration the real issue is government. Just look at what’s happening with blacks in the USA.
Europe is socialist like Canada so the problem and solution is somewhat different. For example pre Eurozone parts of Europe were considered low wage zones. As long as they buy made in Germany. Why did you chose to ignore the first part of my statement about a nationalist economy. Henry Ford believed and wanted every one of his workers to be able to afford his cars. On that note let's inform @totti fan how in the communist country of China they don't allow worker unions and they have tolls on all their highways. One thing to note is they have Medicare for all. I have gotten sick in Guangzhou, China, a city of almost 40m people. I was in and out of the hospital in 3 hours, where I got seen by a nurse, a doctor and had x-ray on my chest, bloods and ultrasound. I was then prescribed meds and sent home. All at a cost of 60$ usd and without insurance
I cannot because people will ban me. All im going to say is whenever goverment plays a big part in someone's life they forever end up stuck where they are at for the most part.
Jews, Italians and Irish built North America. So did all of the other European migrants. Don't confuse yourselves, circumstances of the socioeconomic status are the driving factors. Be careful with throwing around broad statements...
You missed my point. The new population always goes through this faze before assimilation. The issue with Europe is that they are allowing people to change their country when it should be the other way around in the sense "if you want to live here you must adapt to our life style"
Who's going to ban you? Are there any serious left in the Italy section? I mean I know that weak soy Dante is still a mod but he's too busy posting play by play of Juve games to bother with this side of the world.
He's too busy recruiting, providing literally the same links for, and making passes at Honduran Americans to fight his battle with Falc. And Chooch, if you have something to say, then say it rather than making vague comments that are likely only based on personal experience or whims. Be a man and speak your mind.
In order to get out of Northern California and if the Italian government would give me $50,000, I'd seriously consider moving back there in the next 4-5 years to retire. Wonder what they would say to me if I were to ask?
This. And to compare that to Italians and other European immigrants who built North America is completely dishonest. @phat
I was addressing American immigration issues from Latin America. Socialist ones in places like Canada and Europe are slightly different. There are solutions as well I can discuss but one issue at a time please.
So it is all of Obama & Clinton's fault. What happened back then is the cause for this massive caravan today. I think not. It is empty promises that those who would make the arduous travel to the US would find a new and better life. It is not.
Link from tottifans original message: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/opinion/in-honduras-a-mess-helped-by-the-us.html "This chain of events — a coup that the United States didn’t stop, a fraudulent election that it accepted — has now allowed corruption (pre-existing) to mushroom." So was the original claim too much intervention or not enough? Tottifan, have you found your answer?