2018 Expansion Draft (FC Cincinnati)

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  1. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who will the Revs protect? Who will they lose?

    2018 MLS Expansion Draft: Rules & Procedure
    October 24, 2018, 12:24PM EDT
    MLS Communications

    I had forgotten this little tidbit:
     
  2. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I had predicted in another thread that the Revs will lose Cropper. If Burns were smart, he would trade Cropper before the draft. I don't think he is.

    Psst, Mike. You don't have to wait until the 4-hour trade window on Dec 9th to work out a trade. You just can't complete it until then...
     
  3. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I noted this elsewhere, but the five teams that had a player picked last year can't have a player chosen this year.
     
  4. tsb11

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    United States
    May 31, 2018
    Zach Herivaux and Issac Angking are homegrown players, and are ineligible for selection. It is unclear if Scott Caldwell still counts as one, and I do jot think Diego does anymore.

    With 10 slots the easy ones are:
    Turner
    Delamea
    Caicedo
    Penilla
    Fagundez

    You probably also protect Mancienne, Farrell, Bunbury, and Rowe. You could use the 10th spot on Agudelo, but only if you think having his rights later will be worth more than 50k now.
     
  5. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    The Revs buy-down Caldwell's salary with xAM to keep him on the supplemental roster:
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/rosters/2018/new-england-revolution

    So he is exempt. Diego is not.
     
  6. a517dogg

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    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
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    New England Revolution
    It'd be surprising if Cincinnati pick Diego (or Agudelo) as he may go overseas anyway, and Tierney may retire and just came off injury, so all 3 of them don't likely need protection. Mancienne is so expensive he likely doesn't need protection either.
     
  7. NFLPatriot

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    Foxboro, MA
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    Diego has a year left on his contract.

    Agudelo is out of contract, but the Revs still hold his MLS rights Even if he signs overseas, Cincy could take a chance that he'd come back to MLS in the future.

    Mancienne is the highest paid defender in MLS, and hasn't proven he is worth that (so far). Still, Cincy has money to burn right now, so they might take a chance.
     
  8. tsb11

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    United States
    May 31, 2018
    You'd pick either of them to have their rights. Even if Juan leaves while being out of contract, if he decides to return to MLS then the league considers NE the team who has his rights. Any team that wants to sign him would have to make a deal with NE to get him. If they think they could get more than 50k (what the league gives them if he gets taken in the expansion draft) by trading his rights later then you would protect him
     
  9. a517dogg

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    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
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    Diego's year is an option year - I interpret that to mean that he may or may not return to MLS.
     
  10. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    Revs' option, which they already exercised.
    https://www.revolutionsoccer.net/po...ayers-revs-have-flexibility-build-next-season

     
    a517dogg repped this.
  11. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They need to have a better setup of the roster for expansion teams. In the case of Cincinnati, they like other existing teams that were "promoted," like Minnesota, Orlando,Montreal, Vancouver, Portland, etc. they would be given first crack at any of their own roster. If they think that, say, 5 guys in their current team are MLS-calibre players, those become their first 5 picks. If they are entitled to 11 picks overall, they only get 6 more. All the remaining players on their roster become free agents who can sign with the USL team of their choice, or finagle an invite to an MLS camp if they can manage it.

    This does not apply to the teams being created from scratch, like LAFC, Atlanta, NYCFC, Toronto, Philadelphia, etc. who would get their full allotment of expansion picks.
     
  12. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    They keep cutting back, I get the feeling that by the time they get to Austin (or wherever team 27 turns out to be), the expansion draft will be eliminated.
     
  13. propnut27

    propnut27 Member

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    I didn't watch many games this year. My GAFF attitude is growing. Of those I did see I would rank Caldwell as one of the most hopeless entities ever to wear a Rev uniform.
     
  14. tsb11

    tsb11 Member+

    United States
    May 31, 2018
    Meet your 2018 starting CM! He definitely earned his spot ahead of Rowe and Zahibo (whoI would argue is the most hopeless entity to wear a Rev uniform)
     
  15. NFLPatriot

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    Trade window opens in two hours...

    FC Cincinnati to select five players in MLS Expansion Draft on Dec. 11
    November 9, 2018 9:52AM EST

    Sunday December 9 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM ET - Half-Day Trade Window
    Tuesday December 11 2:00 PM ET - Expansion Draft
    Tuesday December 11 3:00 PM ET - Free Agency Begins
    Friday December 14 3:00 PM ET - 2018 MLS Re-Entry Draft – Stage 1
    Thursday December 20 2:00 PM ET - 2017 MLS Re-Entry Draft – Stage 2
     
  16. tsb11

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    May 31, 2018
    I've seen a nice flurry of activity, but remain completely unsurprised at the lack of even a rumor involving the Revs
     
  17. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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  18. RevsRule

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    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Here we go:

    Here is the full list of eligible players:

    NEW ENGLAND REVOLUTION

    Jalil Anibaba, Cody Cropper, Claude Dielna, Guillermo Hauche, Femi Hollinger-Janzen, Brad Knighton, Cristhian Machado, Nicolas Samayoa, Mark Segbers, Gabriel Somi, Chris Tierney (Free Agent), Brian Wright, Wilfried Zahibo

    See no problem here though if Burns were drafting for an expansion team, he might go for Tierney
     
  19. tsb11

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    United States
    May 31, 2018
    Didn't Femi, Hauché, Machado, Samayoa, and Segbers get waived? It wouod hardly make sense to use expansion picks on free agent players
     
  20. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I just posted it, didnt write it. Maybe the Revs still own all their rights?
     
  21. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

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    #21 firstshirt, Dec 11, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2018
    at first I thought it was odd that they protect Agudelo since his contract is up in 20 days but then I look at the players they did not protect and thought nobody is going to take these guys anyway so what difference does it make
     
  22. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not in the least bit surprising that no Rev was taken by Cincinnati.
     
  23. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    United States
  24. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Revs currently have 20 players on the roster. Cincy up to 15.
     
  25. teskicks

    teskicks Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jan 14, 2002
    Wrentham, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They mentioned the trade to Colorado but didn't mention what FCC got in return.
     

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