Thinking Ahead to 2019

Discussion in 'Women's World Cup' started by thegamesthatrate, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. I think the French WC cities are dying to get the Orange Lionesses in their stadium.
    They see the sold out stadiums the Orange ladies filled and remember the Orange flood in the WC 1998.
     
  2. Lambik

    Lambik New Member

    NAC Breda
    Netherlands
    Nov 10, 2018
    I wonder how many fans will actually go to France. Too bad it's really early (Jun 7 - Jul 7), so way before school vacation. However, if the girls end up in the north (especially Valenciennes) it could be made into a day trip (or 1 night stay).
     
  3. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I can't help wondering way they choose so early dates, compared to men's WC or even to U-20 WWC last summer. I guess it would have been easier for many people (me included) to attend the matches if they had been scheduled in July-August instead of June-July... :devilish:
     
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  4. Lambik

    Lambik New Member

    NAC Breda
    Netherlands
    Nov 10, 2018
    Traditionally most FIFA and regional tournaments run in Jun- early Jul.
    I think they don't want to cut into the (preparation and) start of the next season too much. Clubs don't want to be without their key players during that time.
     
  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It is due to Rolland Garros and the Tour de France dates.
     
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  6. Lambik

    Lambik New Member

    NAC Breda
    Netherlands
    Nov 10, 2018
    Can't believe they wouldn't move those trivial events due to the WWC ;)
     
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  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Indeed, no one watches tennis or cycling :D so they had to squeeze the dates, plus ground availabity as pitches are relaid during the Summer break.
     
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  8. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For lodging in Lyon for the semis and championship, anyone have suggestions? Stay in Lyon? If yes, any recommendations? Stay in a small nearby city? If yes, recommendations? At this point, we're working with two other families/friends. Parents and two players (teenagers), parent and player (teenager), and we two old geezers. All, obviously, women's soccer fanatics.
     
  9. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well if you have cars, no need to stay in Lyon. You might as well try to rent a house for a week.
     
  10. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    We are nearly there :

     
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  11. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Answer will be revealed on the 7th in the afternoon. FIFA are doing a pre-draw press conference, I will be live tweeting it probably plus a couple of posts on French and English websites ;)
     
  12. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    just speculation, but for those wanting the tournament expanded to 32 teams, these would be the additional 8 that would have qualified if the tournament was at 32 teams.

    UEFA(+3): Denmark, Switzerland, Belgium
    AFC(+1): Philippines
    CAF(+1): Cameroon/Mali loser
    CONCACAF(+1): Panama
    CONMEBOL(+1): Colombia
    CONCACAF/CONMEBOL play-off(+1): Mexico or Paraguay
     
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  13. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Carli Lloyd and Marinette Pichon are attending the media pre-draw briefing.
     
  14. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    ...yeah, I'd say we're not ready to expand to 32 yet. We're already getting one or two minnows in the field of 24, and this would add at least 3 more. And none of the non-minnows on this list, aside from maybe SUI or COL, have shown they consistently deserve to be in the field of 24.
     
  15. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, Denmark couldn't be defined very "consistent", but in the latest years they weren't actually much worse than Switzerland: on the contrary they were in general marginally better: they lost the semifinal of Euro 2013 to Norway at PSO (Switzerland haven't even qualified), they have beaten #1-ranked USA by 5-3 at Algarve Cup 2014, they've got the Silver Medal at Euro 2017 (Switzerland out at group stage).

    Of course Switzerland did better in WWC qualifiers (they qualified in 2015 by winning their group, eliminating Denmark itself in the process; they were the last one to be eliminated from play-offs this year).

    But I'd put Denmark and Switzerland almost at the same level of consistency (and I'd say FIFA World rankings quite agree with me, currently putting Denmark at #16 and Switzerland at #18: this could shift a little with the upcoming update, but anyway the two teams look very close). :coffee:
    By the way, Denmark and Switzerland are actually the 2nd and 3rd higher-ranked team among those that didn't qualify for WWC 2018 (1st.placed is #11-ranked North Korea).
     
  16. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #166 MiLLeNNiuM, Nov 28, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2018

    Wow. The United Passions movie has a paltry rating of 2.1 on IMDB. That's horrible.
    "The film... is now considered to be one of the worst films of all time. The film was also a major box-office bomb, losing $26.8 million worldwide and failing to obtain a theatrical distribution in many markets."
     
  17. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    And the draw presentators are as follows :


    Draw moderators: Denis Brogniart and Amanda Davies

    • Draw conductors: Alex Scott and Louis Saha
    • Draw assistants: Didier Deschamps, Marie Bochet, Kaká, Mia Hamm, Michael Essien, Aya Miyama and Steffi Jones
     
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  18. jagum

    jagum Member

    CF Montreal
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    My mocking draw !! go to FIFA.com and have some fun draw.png USA won't be in group D, because they would have to play in the same bracket of France. Anyway France and Spain are really favorites in Group A. Group B looks very even. C a piece of cake for Germany and Netherlands. USA the real favorite of group D, with Nigeria as the runners up. E belongs to England and Brazil. Japan would win group f without problems, meanwhile the second placed team is like a question mark , Chile included !
     
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  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Well, considering that they've said the seeded teams will still be randomly drawn and it'll be done live, it's totally possible for USA to fall into group D.
    And I'm highly amused that, even with this user-generated mock draw, USA still got Nigeria! It goes back to my point that sometimes a matchup is just how things fall. (Though I personally wouldn't put Nigeria over Norway, especially with Nigeria's struggles to defend their CAF title recently).

    I gotta play with this draw simulator myself later today and see if any interesting patterns emerge...
     
  20. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    That would be my personal favourite for highest entertaining purpose...
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  21. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    The field is set

    CONCACAF: USA, Canada, Jamaica
    COMNEBOL: Brazil, Chile, Argentina
    AFC: Nigeria, South Africa, Cameroon
    UEFA: Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, England, Scotland, Spain, Italy, Netherlands
    AFC: Japan, Australia, China, South Korea, Thailand
    OFC: New Zealand
     
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  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Alright, I did five simulated draws - which isn't enough to really draw out huge patterns, but I'm methodical enough with these that I'm tired of running through the motions now. X-D

    Anyway, first draw I did wasn't very random, as I tried doing my best to give the hosts France the easiest possible path, not just in their group but through the first two rounds of the knockouts too. Interestingly, it gave me the "USA conspiracy" group as well! (Although that wasn't fully given, since the fourth member of each group was semi-random because they don't really affect the KO stages.)
    2019WWCdrawsim6.png

    Next up, I decided to give hosts France a difficult group, and otherwise used Random.org to decide the remaining five slots across each pot. Here, random.org still toyed with me and gave me another "USA conspiracy" group, interestingly in position C as well:
    2019WWCdrawsim3.png

    Aside from the USA conspiracy group C, the only other repeated group matches between these two are NOR-CHN and CAN-CMR.

    Other three all-random.org-generated draws coming in the next post!
     
  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Draw 3: 2019WWCdrawsim1.png

    Draw 4:
    2019WWCdrawsim4.png

    Draw 5: 2019WWCdrawsim5.png

    And holy shit, random.org gave me two instances of identical groups between these three draws: 3D/5F and 3E/4E

    Maybe unsurprisingly, there are a lot of pairings that happen at least twice, even just among these three draws. But gimme a second while I try to count up what the most popular pairings among the seven posted draws here are...
     
  24. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #174 SiberianThunderT, Dec 1, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2018
    Pairings that happen more three or more times out of our seven:
    FRA -- none
    USA -- NIG, RSA
    GER -- CHN, ARG
    ENG -- THA, KOR, CMR
    CAN -- ITA, CHN, CHI
    AUS -- SCO, NZL, ARG, JAM
    (no pot 1 team faces a pot 2 team more than twice in our draws, interestingly, and faces no team ever more than 3 times. That second point breaks down later...)
    NED -- CHNx4, CHI
    JPN -- ITAx5(!!) @blissett
    SWE -- ARG
    BRA -- SCOx4, JAM, CMR
    ESP -- THAx4, JAM
    NOR -- none
    (only pot3-pot4 pairings left to say now)
    KOR -- none new
    CHN -- CHI (reflects on CAN, kinda)
    ITA -- none new
    SCO -- none new
    NZL -- NIG (reflects on USA, kinda)
    THA -- none new


    I may try three more random.org-fueled draws tomorrow to see if any pairings get to 5-out-of-10 levels.
     
  25. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think I've mentioned this previously here (maybe I have?), but there's a reasonably good chance that during the WWC we'll see a new record for all time international goals scored by a player.
     

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