PBP: MLS 2018 Playoffs Second Round Leg 2 Continuous PBP [Multiple R]

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  1. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I have never understood why players don't hit the middle more often. I´m sure it has the biggest success rate of all the three choices by far
     
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  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The logic is basically that they don't want to look stupid if the GK just stands them up. But you look stupid if you miss/get your penalty saved no matter where it goes, so who cares? Pound it down the middle.
     
  3. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Dempsey always did that. Actually it's good for players with power. Always the risk of a trailing hand or leg but Asprilla has power if nothing else so right choice for him.
     
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  4. Salvadanish

    Salvadanish Member

    Sep 14, 2014
    Vancouver, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    See-aaaaa-tllllle ... SILENCE.
     
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  5. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I´m sure that´s the reason. But you also have to think that keepers look way more stupid if they just stay in the middle and the ball goes to either side. During regulation time, keeper may think of that. But it's very uncommon to see a keeper stay in the middle during a pk shootout.
     
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  6. miked9

    miked9 Member+

    May 4, 2000
    Philadelphia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s a book I read a while back called From Twelve Yards that goes into all the statistics, strategy and psychology of penalty taking. I bought it after I missed a pen in a rec league, lol
     
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  7. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Happy to see Portland advance but could they please learn to waste some possession time before they meet Sporting? Their possession game is beyond pathetic. Go at Zusi who is no fullback.
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yep. If you're a regular penalty taker, you obviously can't shoot down the middle regularly, but if you're shooter #3+, and you're in a shootout, you absolutely can.
     
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  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The irony, of course, is that Portland lost the game tonight.
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Even better! Tonight both Portland and Seattle lost.

    But Seattle lost worse.
     
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  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    On the bright side, it will mean Portland's loss will be even more heart-wrenching if it happens in MLS Cup.
     
  12. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Also, unless it´s a Panenka shot, shooters are rarely criticized when shooting in the middle. However, if the keeper doesn't move it's normally perceived as "lack of effort" or something more often. Shooter has the advantage there but as you say, it can't be often.

    shooter #3 for sure doesn't take a lot of penalties in his life, he can even feel insecure and in that case keeper sense that and throw to their best foot. If i'm nervous in a shootout I hit a strong one just in the middle
     
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  13. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    On the bright side, Seattle can program more car shows in the following weeks!!

    JK
     
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  14. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I've never seen a stat like this (it's not often I look, but this seems extreme) - look at the number of crosses by Seattle. This has to be an error.

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  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm watching the MLS live review show right now, and they're showing Savarese talking to journalists in a post-game presser. Not a single one has asked him yet about his players thinking that they won after extra time. This is journalistic malpractice.

    EDIT: One did, and Savarese dodged the question. He definitely had no idea about that.
     
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  16. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I will never forget this Manchester United game, in which they crossed the ball 81 times in a 2-2 draw. Whenever I'm watching a game now where a team seems to have no ideas besides crossing it repeatedly, I call it MoyesBall.
     
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  17. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It's clear he didn't know that either, otherwise he would have told his players at some point. Honestrly I also didn't know until they said so in TV.

    And yeah, soccer journalist are terrible... everywhere.
     
  18. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Schmetzer saying it's the worst loss he's had (even though Seattle technically won - yes, I'm holding onto that). Of note, this was his 45th Seattle-Portland game.
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dammit I thought it was tomorrow night :(
     
  20. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It was epic.
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll watch it from 60 minutes on.
     
  22. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    You won the battle, it lost the war sorta deal.
     
  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    As potentially did you, now that you could be facing Sporting in the next round - no peace in your household! :p
     
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  24. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was the most hilariously awful playoff coaching gaffe since Mike Petke didn't know the caution accumulation rules back with the Red Bulls. While I don't care for the Sounders, I'm mildly annoyed that Savarese didn't get punished for it.
     
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  25. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Schmeltzer thinks this loss is worse than losing an MLS Cup final?
     

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