U15-U17-U20-YNT

Discussion in 'Guatemala' started by lguti9, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    @Catracho_Azul

    How high do you rate this u-20 generation? Cause it's the same that just got 3rd place en los juegos no?

    Who are the best prospects ? Will they be in the UNCAF that's coming in a few days ?


    Cause now with the new more difficult Qualyfing format, I still see Mexico, the US as locks, followed by you guys. With the tthe last spot to be fought over by everyone else (depending on the draw ofc).
     
  2. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    They're rated highly. Yes they're fresh from finishing 3rd in Barranquilla.

    Best prospects are probably the ones that play regular first team ball in Liga Nacional, so most of them lol. uhhh I guess they'll be in UNCAF? I haven't heard of anything U-20 related coming up, besides the Qualifiers in November from Bradenton, Florida.(IMG Academy).

    We're probably a lock for the 2019 U-20 WC unless something goes absolutely wrong.
     
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  3. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Man, a lot of our players have made their debuts but only a few get regular minutes. Then you include the fact that we have been working for less time than the other nations and our players don't have the "rodaje internacional" due to our suspension, and our chances begin to look bleak :(


    Este mira,


    Due to the change in qualifying format, this is only for preparation & bragging rights

    Calendar
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  4. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    lol idk if our best U-19s will be there... They might be because of the sole fact that Honduras are hosts, but then again some have already moved abroad (Decas y Douglas Martinez), while others are starters on their club and our season is underway and they've already missed pre-season cuz of the CAC Games. (Calix, Baptiste, Diego, Guevara)

    If this tournament is strictly para rigiar(rijiar?), then I can see Tabora call-up the fringe U-20s and give them a shot since they probably didn't get one in Barranquilla.
     
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  5. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    That's would be a shame, at least for us. Since none of our players got to participate in their u-17 cycle, this was gonna be their first taste of international games. I rather we play you guys' best version, but it is what it is
     
  6. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    I believe we're Central American U19 Champions! Lol :rolleyes:

    Guatemala 1-1 Costa Rica
    Guatemala 1-0 Panamá
    Guatemala 1-0 Honduras
    Guatemala 2-0 Nicaragua
    Guatemala 3-0 El Salvador
    Guatemala vs Belice 26/08

    I wasn't expecting much from this team but at least it gives us optimism about the future.

     
  7. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Well, I'm more suprised at the results than the performances. Since a lot of these playes have already played in La Liga Nacional.


    Have you seen the games though? Por momentos nos hemos visto bien y por otros mal. Low key they remind me of the 2015 generation. Solid defensively and effective when we get chances to score. Though I see more of an "identity" with them than the one Carlos "Xuxa" Ruiz had. There have been some very good goals too.

    At the end of the day, most of our chances lie on which group we land, with the new format. Hopefully, we land in the one with the salvies.
     
  8. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    I just saw the highlights despite the games being live on FB.

    The goal versus Honduras was a golazo.

     
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  9. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
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    There were a few golazos tbh. The one against Costa Rica was good due Rosa's run. El de honduras tambien, y eso que el mismos Rosas tuvo una igual que la revento en el palo. The first goal against Nicaragua & the third against the salvies. I think i have them somewhere so I'll post them later.
     
  10. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    #310 Chul0, Sep 14, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2018
    Los Dioses Del Futbol were kinda to us in the u-20 draw. We have a fighting chance even we're not favorites to qualify to the WC
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    Not only nos toco el cabeza de serie mas debil (El Salvador was terrible en el uncaf sub 19) but we also got one of the groups with only 5 teams so we get to play less games before the second round (provided the caribbean teams dont turn out to be strong)

    For the second round we're not favorites but we can compete. On paper it'll be Mexico & Panama. Mexico is a lock in for a spot imo, and even though Panama was better en el Uncaf ww still manage to beat them. Let's see how we do, especially now that we lost an important cog ib our system due to injury (our DM Javier Estrada won't make it)
     
  11. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    We got a favorable group but we're Guatemala and we tend to disappoint.

    Considering we won the recent UNCAF tournament then we're favorites.

    But honestly anything can happen.
     
  12. drerodz

    drerodz Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    SF Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Pretty much how it goes right? We do great then out of nowhere sh*t the bed.
     
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  13. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
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    CSD Comunicaciones
    I think the Uncaf title might be misleading. You only have to look at the performances. Panama had the better tournament imo. So if it all goes down as it should, we make it to the 2nd round but Mexico & Panama take the WC spots.

    Pero esto es futbol, let's see what happens.
     
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  14. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    November schedule. U20 WCQ

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  15. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
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    List of the u-20 players for the Mexico camp. They just lost to a third division team there 3-2 ( 4 of the starters didn't participate in the Honduras tournament). And they're playing Pachuca u-20 tomorrow. If one of our guys could get picked up by Pachuca though... A guy can dream right ?

    Also, it's amazing how "stacked" we are with midfielders and how lacking we are with defenders.

    At midfield we have Barrientos, Garrido, Mota, Galvez, Castellanos and Alvarado (the latter two playing as CBs for this team). That's without Mendez (suspended), J. Estrada (starter until he got injured) and Valdizon (injured). There's also Cifuentes but he's been used as a left back so far. I still don't know why Gardiner keeps ignoring Donato Dardon. Dude's been a mainstay for Petapa's backline. I can only hope that he wasn't called cause he's too important for Petapa at this point of the season.
     
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  16. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
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  17. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Oscar Santis keeps scoring. He's definitely making the squad for the premundial and might even challenge Rosas & Cuilapita for the wings. Which hopefully end up Gardiner's experiment of playing Orellana (a ST) there.

    Funnily enough, I think his future lies there as a center forward too. He was highly rated in Suchi (made his debut at 16) and even managed to become a starter for them in the season they went down. He's a bit of a hothead though. Let's hope he can cut that out of his game.

    Last game is on friday against Pachuca u-20. Let's see how we do against them.
     
  18. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
  19. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones


    En guate, no cabe duda, que hacemos las cosas con el culo. Incompetence at its finest :mad:
     
  20. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    anyone watching the UNCAF u-16?
    esta jugando el heredero del fish (Andy Palencia), mark my words
     
  21. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    a lot of height in the team but no technique. The only 2 that seem to have any future is the GK aguirre and Palencia. But from what I've seen, doesn't look like a particularly talented generation
     
  22. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    too young to tell. Wouldn't get caught up with U15-16-17 NTs. They're still in development plus on top of that a lot of politics goes behind player selections so a lot of times, truly, the best kids aren't really on the team(they missed practice, couldn't travel, other commitments) which is why huge percentage of U15-16-17s will probably never see U-20-23 NTs.

    What is it.. like on average ~6% of U-17ers actually make it to represent their respective Senior Mens NT.?

    Just enjoy what you can when they play lol
     
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  23. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Agree, I honestly dont care about the u-17 for the same reason. At their age, some of them simply stand out for being taller, stronger faster.

    But even then, its surprising that we lack technique. Thats the thing we always had even if was shown only in glimpses.
     
  24. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    Guatemala 1-0 Honduras

    Warm up game played in Nashville, Tennessee.
     
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  25. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
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    CSD Comunicaciones
    Los tenemos de hijos:barefoot:;)

    @Catracho_Azul
     
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