YNT-Eligible MLS Players: 2018 In-Season Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busio and Lindsey on the bench for SKC
     
  2. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Durkin had a solid match. Gets caught out of position at times and takes some bad angles but he was solid. Don’t think he beats out Moreno yet, but this has been a good year for his exposure and development.
     
  3. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busio boutta be subbed on.
     
  4. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Busio is confident as hell for a 16 y/o, love it
     
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  5. punintended_13

    punintended_13 Member+

    Atlanta United
    Mar 22, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Busio is unreal. He's made 3 or so line-splitting passes to put a teammate in a dangerous spot. He's got it.
     
  6. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And another nice pass by Busio, wasted. The dude has vision, if nothing else.
     
  7. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The easiest goal of all time, it must be said, but his movement definitely helped.
     
  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unquestionably.
     
  10. Sombrerito

    Sombrerito Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    May 6, 2018
    Wow we might end up with good amount of young quality attackers with guys breaking out in the coming years. Feels nice
     
  11. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Busio is such a fluid athlete with tactical ability. Everything looks easy for him.
     
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Well this was an eventful night for our kids considering only 4 played. Except for Orlando, of course. Jack asses. Like you're could lose 20 in a row or whatever it is with young players just as well as with veterans!

    I thought Durkin was really good. Broke up a lot of plays and was a good outlet as DC absorbed a lot of pressure after scoring.

    Both Bwana and Busio are really smooth. Just graceful athletes we haven't had much of in the past. And pretty skilled, too. Obviously Busio has the bigger upside. He is just naturally confident.

    Akinola ran around lot and did some pressing but didn't see much of the ball. Not sure if he's athletic enough to get by on just that and pretty sure he isn't skilled enough. But he scored a lot for the 17s and he should get plenty of chances to prove me wrong.

    Updated.
    Auston Trusty (98), D, PHILADELPHIA – 32 GM/32 ST, 2880 MIN, 1 G/1 A
    Justen Glad (97), D, SALT LAKE – 32 GM/32 ST, 2820 MIN, 0 G/0 A
    Reggie Cannon (98), D, DALLAS – 31/31, 2741, 1/3
    Brooks Lennon (97), D/M, SALT LAKE – 31/30, 2670, 0/5
    Tyler Adams (99), M, NEW YORK RB – 25/24, 2168, 0/7
    Chris Durkin (00), M, DC UNITED – 23/16, 1503, 0/1
    Mark McKenzie (99), D, PHILADELPHIA – 16/15, 1449, 0/0
    Jackson Yueill (97), M, SAN JOSE – 19/13, 1106, 0/3
    Aaron Herrera (97), M/D, SALT LAKE – 14/12, 1076, 0/0
    Sebastien Saucedo (97), M, SALT LAKE – 26/9, 929, 2/4

    Danilo Acosta (97), D, SALT LAKE – 12/10, 896, 0/2
    Jaylin Lindsey (00), D, KANSAS CITY - 7/6, 555, 0/1
    Handwalla Bwana (97), M, SEATTLE – 11/6, 476, 2/1
    Djordje Mihailovic (98), M, CHICAGO - 7/6, 441, 1/3
    Marco Farfan (98), D, PORTLAND – 10/5, 425, 0/0
    Derrick Jones (97), M, PHILADELPHIA – 11/3, 369, 0/0
    Kyle Duncan (97), D, NEW YORK RB – 4/4, 360, 0/1
    Jeremy Ebobisse (97), F, PORTLAND - 7/4, 354, 2/1
    Mason Toye (98), F, MINNESOTA – 17/2, 340, 0/1
    Wan Kuzain (98), M, KANSAS CITY – 6/3, 307, 1/0

    Miles Robinson (97), D, ATLANTA – 10/3, 272, 0/0
    J.T. Marcinkowski (97), GK, San Jose - 3/3, 270, 3.00 GAA, .608 save pct.
    Matt Real (99), D, PHILADELPHIA – 3/3, 236, 0/0
    James Sands (00), M, NYCFC - 3/3, 223, 0/0
    Jonathan Lewis (97), M/F, NYCFC - 14/0, 219, 1/3
    Cam Lindley (97), M, ORLANDO – 3/3, 201, 0/0
    George Bello (02), D, ATLANTA - 3/2, 177, 1/0
    Gianluca Busio (02), M, KANSAS CITY - 7/1, 153, 1/1
    Cole Bassett (01), M, COLORADO - 4/1, 133, 0/0
    Paxton Pomykal (99), M, DALLAS – 6/1, 125, 0/0

    Anthony Fontana (99), M, PHILADELPHIA – 5/1, 98, 1/0
    Andrew Carleton (00), M, ATLANTA – 6/1, 94, 0/1
    Ben Mines (00), M, NEW YORK RB – 1/1, 90, 1/0
    Tommy Redding (97), D, NEW YORK RB – 1/1, 90, 0/0
    Brandon Vasquez (98), F, ATLANTA – 8/0, 86, 0/0
    Pierre Da Silva (98), M, ORLANDO - 2/0, 49, 0/0
    Ayo Akinola (00), F, TORONTO - 4/0, 45, 0/1
    Isaac Angking (00), M, NEW ENGLAND - 3/0, 36, 0/0
    Shaft Brewer (99), M, LAFC - 3/0, 29, 0/0
    Joshua Perez (98), M, LAFC - 2/0, 22, 0/0

    Eric Calvillo (98), M, SAN JOSE - 1/0, 16, 0/0
    Jesus Ferreira (00), F, DALLAS - 1/0, 3, 0/0
     
  13. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels like Vermes has learned from EPB. I know that’s a very simplistic take but he is giving some younger players some chances.
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I can’t understand how Busio adds nothing to his youth age group, but undoubtedly has been productive at a much better level. It could have something to do with sample size for both teams, but nonetheless, it’s worth monitoring because it could make someone draw two very different conclusions.
     
  15. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    He blamed EPB’s agent.
     
  16. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He doesn’t have to admit it publicly but his actions show a change
     
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  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Shrug. There's plenty of blame to go around.

    Busio became the 2nd youngest scorer in league history last night. Just edging in front of Jesus Ferreira. (100 years from now people are going to look at Adu's record in this category and say "What the hell where we doing back in 2004?" Like those crazy baseball records from 100 years ago when somebody had 30 complete games.)
     
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  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I was agreeing. I was also mentioning that though. I'm not sure he wants to admit it (nor does he have to), but I agree his actions have definitely showed a change.
     
  19. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    For me it isn't really anything unusual, You see it all the time in other american sports where a player dominates at the collegiate level and then is a relative flop at the professional level while a player that doesn't do as much at the college level outperforms many or even all of his better rated contemporaries. A quick easy example: Joe Montana (5th round pick or something to one of the top quarterbacks of all time). That is part of what makes speculation on players so difficult but yet so interesting.
     
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  20. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Agreed. Weah was like that, but I tend to think it was easier to spot that Weah was really talented than Busio. He was being played out of position at youth level (still is played out of position often). Also, he was in and out of the team all the time. Some tournaments he'd play, others he wouldn't. It was harder to understand his role and the system than a player who was with the team on a daily basis.

    With Busio, I think there's still a sample size issue on both fronts. There is certainly a danger in saying he's not any good, he can't produce against youth players because its a similar situation to Weah with the constantly going back and forth between teams, different roles, different caliber of players, different positions, etc. At the same time, he's played less than 250 minutes with the SKC first team. Too early to say he's proven.

    Hard situation to figure out all around.
     
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  21. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    It's common for players to look better with their pro clubs, where they train daily, know the system and their teammates well, and (presumably) get consistent, frequently reinforced, instruction about their roles and responsibilities, than they do in "all star" type situations.

    It's probably also true that, for a U17 type guy in MLS particularly, he stands to look better because he is playing with better teammates than he would see on a YNT, generally speaking.

    Adjusting to MNT roles and teammates is obviously hard for senior players, too. It must be even harder for YNT guys. Guys who can do it are, one would think, of particular value to coaches of those teams.

    Should every U17 player who can contribute in MLS, or some other quality league, be expected to star at the youth level? Maybe it's worth wondering why it does or doesn't happen, but I suspect the answer in specific cases is going to be hard to get at.
     
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  22. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what you're trying to say is that Busio is a system player? ;)
     
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  23. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Wow even forgetting the goal those were some sick passes by Busio. There was one where he passed diagonally to his left that I thought was a misplaced ball, when it actually turned out to be a beautiful pass into Sallio I believe.

    Him not cutting it at the youth MNT level doesn’t mean he doesn’t have more potential than Carleton (I know no one has said this but there seem to be far more Carleton supporters than Busio).

    The difference is Busio has shown with each appearance he can provide those killer passes with confidence, and he’s only 16.
     
  24. USSoccerNova

    USSoccerNova Member+

    Sep 28, 2005
    I've watched pretty much all of Busio's limited minutes with SKC, and again and again, the following things stick out:

    • excellent passing vision and execution (created several dangerous chances last night);
    • a really solid first touch in traffic (controls some really hard balls passed into him with relative ease);
    • comfortable in traffic, with good spatial awareness (noticeably better than most MLS players);
    • good athleticism for his age (although, we'll see how he physically matures);
    • and although he hasn't had many chances, a solid shot from distance.

    Last night, he not only looked like he belonged on the field, but seemed to be one of the more influential players. Very promising, although I agree with @ussoccer97531 that he's young and we'll have to see how he develops.
     
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  25. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It happens. In a way, it is like a boxer who, as an amateur, looks good but not great. But then stepping up to the pros, the same boxer is a beast (more rounds, different scoring, power being more rewarded, etc). It just seems that Busio fits with guys who start with a higher base level of talent. That's a good thing. We would rather that than the alternative.

    Edit: I see this was already addressed. I am late to the party.
     
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