MLS 2018 Attendance Thread

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  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Attendance at pre-season games is a poor indicator of regular season. Now, it might be an indication of "poor" season ticket sales since most teams force season ticket holders to buy pre-season tickets with their regular season tickets.
     
  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I think you also have to look at it from a relative perspective - No team in the NFL is getting preseason attendance anywhere near that low. Anyway, Chargers attendance is a fun topic to discuss, but I suppose that discussion doesn't belong here. Just wanted to make a comparison to the Galaxy since its rare to say that an MLS team can outdraw an NFL team (though the NFL team has ticket prices 3x higher than the MLS team)
     
  3. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most NFL teams' season ticket base is larger than that by a good degree, no? I dunno if the Chargers are withholding any tickets for walkups (or if it even makes any sense for them to do so), but given a stadium that holds ~25k in its NFL configuration, I don't see those numbers as that bad, especially if it's indicative of their season ticket holder base right now.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chargers say they’ve sold out their ST and have less than a few hundred tickets per game remaining.



    Aso probably going to have higher attendance than Galaxy and FC.

    Also, how much effort are they putting into selling tickets? As we’ve seen with MLS teams waiting on new stadiums, they might just be in a holding pattern until the Rams’ stadium is built.
     
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  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    They are advertising at least as much as the Rams are... They also announced the same thing last season, and then sold out like 2 of their games, none at the capacity they promised.

    I would put Rams and Chargers advertising on the same level as the Galaxy, though they have much better local TV deals, which is advertising in its own way.
     
  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least we now know what Chicago's STH count is. Give or take 200 or so.
     
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  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    15648 in San Jose
     
  8. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    15,042 in NYRB
    17,692 in DC
    21,144 in Portland
     
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  9. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Anyone know how adidas got 500 tickets for the Timbers game last night? They're a big sponsor but I thought most PTFC seats were sold on a season ticket basis?
     
  10. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    There is a cap in season tickets for portland
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guarantee a set amount of tickets are held back specifically for sponsors and such for things just like that.
     
  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    combination of tickets set aside for comps and unused Away Supporters tickets? Adidas also likely has a block of tickets already, seeing as their NA HQ is in Portland, Oregon.
     
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  13. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1588 Lancaster FC, Aug 30, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2018
    how many sub 10k games have we had this year? It has to be at least a couple now, especially with DC United playing in small stadiums at the beginning of the year.

    I know DC, Columbus, and Chicago have all had at least 1.
     
  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    yes, I got an email from a friend at adidas HQ. They were offered not only a free ticket to the game but 2 free Uber rides and 3 drink vouchers.

    What number does Portland cap their season tickets at?
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it is either 15k or 19k. I can't remember which and my googlefu is failing me.
     
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  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    21,363 in RSL (I believe this is the largest crowd at Rio Tinto)
    22,912 in Orlando (I believe this is the smallest crowd at Orlando Stadium)
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From my position on the sofa I'd say there were less than 10k in Orlando. I've seen sub capacity attendances there before but nothing like tonight.

    You can do all the marketing in the world and build the most beautiful stadium but if you put out a shit product eventually is going to come back to you.
     
  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many season tickets holders does Orlando have?
     
  19. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember when Orlando was selling out the Citrus Bowl or whatever it is and people were saying they needed a 40k+ plus stadium?

    Pepperidge Farm remembers.
     
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  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I think they only sold out the Camping World Stadium once or twice, but they did get over 30k many times...
     
  21. BassNFool

    BassNFool Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back in 2015 I went to RFK to watch DC United vs Orlando and as we were walking in I noted how large the crowd was. A Orlando fan walking near us remarked how she hadn't realized that DC still had fans. Pissed me off. At the time I wondered how long it would take for them to get their comeuppance. Less than 4 years. Oh the karma!
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2015

    Highest home attendance 62,510 vs NYCFC(Mar. 8)
    Lowest home attendance 22,241 vs Kansas City(Sept. 13)
    Average home league attendance 32,847
     
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  23. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shiny bew effect always happens. 1996 was the #1 attendence year for a long time.

    And remember attendence is a trailing indicator. It is usually the year after a team stinks/rebounds that things tumble/rebound.

    Extended periods of winning can bolster drops in attendence for a couple poor seasons. While extended sucking can kill the bounce on a couple good ones.
     
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  24. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Less than a mile away at the Citrus Bowl, Alabama was slaughtering Louisville in front of 57,000. This may have affected Orlando City attendance.
     
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  25. runningoz

    runningoz Member

    Oct 25, 2014
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sorry, not allowed to use local college football games, weather, or a down season as a reason for lower attendance, or so I’ve been told.
     
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