P/I/P Revs @ DC, 8/19/2018, 7:30pm [R]

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  1. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
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    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
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    The commentary is correct about the skewed schedule helping DCU. It played much of the early season on the road and will benefit from lots of home games down the stretch.

    #netid #thisiswhywedrink
     
  2. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    Pathetic effort. Totally outplayed. I think Brad has lost the team. They aren't listening
     
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  3. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
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    To be fair he's trained with this team for all of 2 days, but yeah Mancienne didn't scream "most expensive defender" to me.

    The most frustrating part is DC is really not that good. They aren't making the playoffs even if they go on a late run. They were marginally better than a disaster of a revs team tonight and finally put it away at the end a man up. They deserve to win on the whole but a different revs team with cohesion and a better midfield walks out with a win tonight.

    At least the Krafts got to see our trainwreck firsthand.
     
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  4. Sachem07

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    Mar 28, 2009
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    It wasn't a great showcase match for him by any means. But in his first game after one day of training, I'd say I was more comfortable with him than Anibaba or Delmea. Those two will be fighting to be beside Mancienne for the rest of the season.

    Farrell had a horrible match.
     
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  5. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    I switched to listen to Brad and Paul. Feldman asked Paul if Rowe’s name jumped out as sub to help. Paul didn’t directly answer.

    Feldman also noted Machado not seeing much of field.

    Feldman asked if it is Crisis time. Paul says not yet but getting close.
     
  6. Revs in 2010

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    Feb 29, 2000
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    From your lips to God's ears (please please please), also, while they're there can they see the value of an SSS, please?
    Wow, after 90 minutes, have you already decided he's a bust? You could be right, but I think it's too early to make a judgement.
     
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  7. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
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    The most frustrating part is how horrible the REVs are. We found something BF can coach:hacking.
     
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  8. Feldspar

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  9. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Definitely not making that claim at all. Maybe a little harsh in my pain.

    When Jones had a couple of sessions and played first game, it was another level.

    Was hoping I might see something similar. I am still taking wait and see.
     
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  10. Revs in 2010

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    #110 Revs in 2010, Aug 19, 2018
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    No, he can't -- if you can coach it, you get away with it (think Fire from 10 years ago, or Dominic Kinnear teams). BF should have known Unkle's predilection for calling a tight game and falling for dives. When he's the ref (even at the last minute), you have to adjust your game accordingly. Had Penso reffed, it would have been a different match (the Revs still sucked and would have lost), but they wouldn't likely have been down a man. I thought the Agudelo challenge had a much better shout for being a second yellow than the second Caldwell challenge (frame by frame, I think there may have been minimal contact, but Acosta made a total meal of it).
     
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  11. propnut27

    propnut27 Member

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    Since I moved to Florida I haven't seen very much of the Revs. I got to see them tonight. Unbelievable! That Caldwell kid. He's incredibly unskilled. His idea of defense is to crash into his man. Dumb as a doorknob. Reminds me of Brian Effing Dunseth! I noticed the team played marginally better after he was dismissed.The announcing team kept reminding the viewers that New England was a very physical team. That's always been the code word for untalented. I was appalled at the way a dog tired DCU made them look like an afterthought. Awful passing, terrible marking, no speed, no plan, no nothing. WOW!
     
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  12. Kenp

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    Feb 17, 1999
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    It's clear what Jonathan needs to do to emulate his dad's success.

    Sign a superstar player in his prime for 1/10 of his true market value, then use the excess cap money to surround the superstar with quality players. Oh yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt to get a freakin' genius coach, too.

    Simple, no?
     
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  13. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    I can’t even write anymore. *sigh*
     
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  14. RevsLiverpool

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    Well said on Mancienne. As for Farrell, they desperately need a RB who can complete a pass. He's got infectious enthusiasm but he is a liability every single game.
     
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  15. Doublecard

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    Maybe this is one of those seven ate nine scenarios.

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  16. TOAzer

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    It's just painful to watch this team.
     
  17. asctester

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    #117 asctester, Aug 19, 2018
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    I get the point you are trying to make. I understand your opinion about Friedel's judgement. You have made it multiple times.

    Personally I don't think that Friedel ever honestly rated Nguyen above Herivaux. I think he was sending the message that Nguyen was done here. That is what Nguyen wanted and that is what he got.
     
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  18. TOAzer

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    If that is what passes for "Friedel's judgement" then we have a genuine ass as a manager.
     
  19. MM66

    MM66 Member+

    Mar 9, 2009
    Brookline, MA
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    IMO, it's just the limits of the all-pressure style he wants them to play. It was always going to peter out when the weather got hot and the fatigue of the seasonal grind set in. Teams that play effective high pressure generally do a good job of keeping the ball too. You can't chase every opponent like your hair's on fire for a full season.

    Their legs are giving out and they haven't trained for what to do when their pressure flags. Things might improve a bit when the temperature drops, but it's a style that wears down.
     
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  20. firstshirt

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    Mar 1, 2000
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    Wonder what or who Brad will blame this time. He hasn't played the Trump card yet put its probably coming(see what I did there?). :p
     
  21. Cannons

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    May 16, 2005
    Brad must have told the team to hack it up last night. Juan was playing rougher than usual and of course Caldwell finally got the boot as we know. He's often rough but was extra rough last night

    So Brad decides to make a change.....off comes Juan. That leaves him only one forward on the bench for later. Apparently Rowe is in the Lee spot now. Then Brad wants to change for two forwards. Only Wright left on the bench. Did he do anything in his time in? Maybe pulling Juan was a tactical error on Brad's part? He certainly would have been better than Wright. And Rowe.... OMG.... why is he not using the guy?

    Nice that Kraft came to see the stadium.... too bad he's let this team sink to it's lowest level. I honestly think this is the worst Rev team I can remember. Too bad that they blindly support that fool Mike Burns who is USELESS. Their new "star" defender is showing me NOTHING so far. Nice signing Burns
     
  22. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
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    I have no idea what Friedel was thinking, not putting Rowe or Machado on for Caldwell.

    Anyways, the season is toast - we have a 0.0001% chance of making the playoffs IMO. Time to play the kids (Herivaux, Angking, Wright, Machado, Samayoa, Bye) to see if they're any good, and get Mancienne reps with Delamea and/or Dielna (likely our starting CB pairing next season). Pretty much every gameday roster should be informed by plans for 2019 - the rest of the season is essentially a long preseason. If a player is not in the plans for 2019, either let them go now or play them to get their trade value up (Agudelo, Rowe, one of Cropper/Knighton).

    Now that I've given up on any hope of playoffs, I'll likely be able to enjoy watching Revs games better.
     
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  23. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    You continue to take Friedel's Herivaux/Nguyen comments out of context, and now you're doing it with his Rooney comment. FWIW, while Rooney showed plenty of class, he didn't wreck the Revs.
    I doubt he told them to hack it up - I suspect he told them to be physical. Sometimes the problem is with the implementation rather than the plan.
    Agudelo was an even bigger risk to get red'ed than Caldwell was - although both (as well as Caicedo) were, the way the game was called. The Revs were victims of some pretty soft yellows IMO, though of course, every time DCU was fouled they ended up rolling around in agony. Pulling Agudelo was necessary, because he wasn't able to play physically w/o getting the refs' ire.
    I guess I agree with you here - not sure what he sees in Wright.
    Nothing? He was easily our best defender. On two days practice.
     
  24. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    Agree with most on the Rev's play last night. We were very clearly the second best team on the field. We couldn't complete a pass, DC seemed to get the vast majority of balls that were played aimlessly (usually by us), DC seemed to always have an extra man coming down our flanks. We were TERRIBLE at that - it seemed to me that there were 4 or 5 times when Bye and Caldwell were trying to cover 3 guys. It just didn't work very well - surprise, surprise.

    The 'summer swoon' is here again, and I'm thinking it is a result of a mediocre (at best) set of talent, with little to no depth to speak of which has been tactically figured out by the other teams. We don't have enough talent to break down other teams and no legs to just continue to 'hustle our way out of it'. And we aren't just one or two players away either -- looking at the field, DC must have had 4+ players, easily, that are more talented than our best player.

    We need more talent -- no Machado last night is a real indictment IMHO, agree too early to tell for Mancienne. Good news is he saw the field after 2 days with the team, bad news is nothing really stood out for me about him. BUT - too early for any conclusions.

    They are what they were forecast to be at the beginning of the season, unfortunately, after a bright start.
     
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  25. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
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    Is it time to start the "Is Christhian Machado a bust?" thread?
     

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