MLS 2018 Attendance Thread

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  1. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    turf so probably not
     
  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I wonder, at what point will MLS be mature enough that fans want to see a Joseph more than a Rooney or a Zlatan...
     
  3. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The FO, getting it right for once, is not pushing this as "COME SEE ZLATAN!!!"

    It's more of the "end of an era...even if the era only lasted two years...before we move into Cloud City" type of marketing.

    The Galaxy just happen to be the opponent.

    EDIT: Upper deck seats are on sale for $12.50 until tomorrow.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Kicks saw a huge leap in attendance between year one and year two, from 23,000 to 33,000, then 30,000 and beyond that a slow death.
     
  5. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somewhere buried in the Minnesota expansion thread a few years back, someone (@triplet1 ?) shared a very detailed post on how Mike Lynn and the Vikings killed off the Kicks.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While tempting, we should keep to referring to them as the Galaxy. It is kind of one of the rules of this forum.;)
     
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  7. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mea culpa...
     
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  8. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, mon.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    This one was good too...
     
  10. fairfax4dc

    fairfax4dc Member+

    Dec 5, 2008
    Fairfax, Va
    Oh I thought you were good if you made it to station by 11:30.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont understand this post.
     
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  12. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A phrase I've uttered to myself many times in the last 19 years... :)

    Occasionally about stuff I've written...
     
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  13. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh... about every week ATL has a home game!

    IN all seriousness stop assuming all fans are created equal. There will always be fans that show up for different reasons.
     
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  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    27,142 at Cincinnati vs. Charleston
     
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  15. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    44213 in Seattle
    17594 in Philadelphia
    22120 in Vancouver
    18831 in Montreal
    19737 in Kansas City
    15072 in Houston
    17456 in San Jose
    15107 in Dallas
     
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah.. we don’t need to be posting tweets from randos here..
     
  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    They wanna censor me, they'd rather see me in a cell!
    --2Pac
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is Joseph?
     
  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hear he has a nice coat.
     
  20. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I thought he had a wife named Mary
     
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  21. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    #1446 Len, Aug 19, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2018
    Thank God that was all before facebook; I can see it now:

    Mom #1: "Here's Mikie on his first day of school. I'm so proud of him - not a tear."

    Mom #2: "Julie just said the alphabet all the way up to K; she is so smart."

    Mary: "Busy day around here in the House of Joseph: Here's Jesus healing another sick man. Later, after helping me with the wine for tonight's gathering, he went to the lake saying he was going to walk around looking for some fish. That boy just stays busy."
     
  22. triplet1

    triplet1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2006
    They sure didn't help. Both the Kicks and Vikings played at the old Met Stadium, which wasn't that big. In 1978, the Vikings drew 353,547 fans to the Met, averaging 44,193. The Kicks averaged 13,333 less per game than the Vikings, but they had nearly twice as many regular season games (15 vs. 8). As a result, the Kicks drew over 100,000 more people that season. I'm not sure how many times a pro soccer team has outdrawn the hometown NFL team, but in 1978 the Kicks could and did.

    Construction on the (then) new Metrodome started in December, 1979. Unlike the old Met, there was limited parking near the new stadium. Tailgating was hugely important to the Kicks and their culture, so the loss of that was worrisome from an attendance standpoint. Beyond that, Vikings GM Mike Lynn originally threatened to oppose the Metrodome in direct opposition to the teams' owners. To get him on board, they agreed to give him 10% of all suite revenue from the Metrodome forever. That applied not only to the Vikings' games, but all games -- Twins, Gophers and Kicks included. It was a crippling deal financially that hurt every team that played in the Metrodome for years.

    https://www.twincities.com/2012/06/...mike-lynn-made-the-metrodome-his-sugar-daddy/

    Nearly a year after construction started on the Metrodome, the original Kicks owners, who were local, sold the team in November, 1980. The Kicks were supposed to move into the Metrodome in 1982, but the new owners folded the team before they ever got the chance. Their last game was at the old Met in August, 1981.

    Now, the NASL had huge problems at the time, so it's probably not fair to lay the demise of the Kicks only on the Vikings, but in their rush to move into the Metrodome, they used that opportunity to really hurt the Kicks. That's why, though the Vikings have new owners and have had for years, when they tried to use the US Bank stadium deal to tie up rights to an MLS team, for many of us it was "here we go again."
     
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  23. Guardien

    Guardien Member

    Oct 7, 2013
    Alpharetta, Georgia
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Atlanta 45,309
     
  24. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Atlanta had 2 full stadium regular season games in 2017, 5 in 2018. So let's say they increase it by three every year, 8 in 2019, 11 in 2020, 14 in 2021 and 17 in 2022.

    2019....45,000 x 9 = 405,000; 71,000 x 8 = 568,000 for a total of 973,000 for a average of 57,235
    2020....45,000 x 6 = 270,000; 71,000 x 11 = 781,000 for a total of 1,051,000 for a average of 61,824
    2021....45,000 x 3 = 135,000; 71,000 x 14 = 994,000 for a total of 1,129,000 for a average of 66,412
    2022....71,000+ x 17 = 1,207,000

    That is if the Atlanta fans don't get bored.:p
     
  25. Guardien

    Guardien Member

    Oct 7, 2013
    Alpharetta, Georgia
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    All they have to do is stay on top of the SS rankings for the next for years. Simple.
     

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