Let the rebuild start... Summer 2018 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I have low expectations for emery
     
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I just want to see us not get blown out in big games and win the games we're supposed to win.
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Could be worse. We could have to play half a season's worth of games at Wembley while charging fans new stadium prices.
     
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  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Jitty uses Twitter, since he mentioned it.
     
  5. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    1029136071429419008 is not a valid tweet id


    Arsenal need to get on this before Brexit kicks in.
     
  6. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Flipping assets outside the investment profile of the median wealth groups hasn't penetrated football yet?

    What is the point of all this income if we can't take risks on 4 AMNs at a time?
     
  7. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I feel like this tweet overestimates our attacking system under these last seasons of Wenger. It wasn't bad, but it also wasn't all that organized.
     
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  8. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ospina to Napoli. Loan with an option to buy.
    Campbell to Frosinone on a permanent.
    Bielik to Charlton on loan.
     
  9. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I can translate that tweet: “Arsenal will no longer play triangles on the edge of the box”
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Organization is a priority on defense, but to much organization in attack and you become predictable. Predictable is easy to defend. Bearing in mind that Arsenal scored just as many league goals as the much praised Tottenham offense did last season, what organizational defects did you see in Arsenal's attack?

    Playing triangles in the offensive third, i.e. third man off yhe ball runs, is one of the mainstays of Pep's attack. Arsenal just don't do it as well as City.
     
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  11. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I feel like thats probably for the best when you have excellent attacking players in Sanchez and Ozil. Give them the ball and let them make things happen. They are world class players, you only need to be super organized when you are a lower placed team that doesn't have a good caliber player.
     
  12. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't agree at all. A good system maximizes their talents by setting up predictable options and mismatches that good players can exploit.
     
  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  14. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
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  15. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can’t register him now, but we could do what Liverpool did with Naby Keita. Pay for him now but leave him at Leverkusen with an option to register him in January or next summer.
     
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  16. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Actually thought about that scenario after I posted.
     
  17. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Prices are down because PL clubs can't swoop in with higher bids. Nobody outside of England has been doing much business because they were waiting for the cheaper market
     
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  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair point. But the odds of us committing 50 million to this strategy, at this particular time? Let's just say, I'd be pleasantly gobsmacked if we did.
     
  19. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I might elaborate on my comment a bit. You certainly need systems because that lets players know where everyone will be, but I feel too many teams in the Prem get their movement down to the exact inch meaning that opposition managers who watch the tapes can exploit teams defenses.

    You need the right balance of system and predictability, but you also need players that can produce some magic and surprise the opposition.
    Tons of matches last year where our attack was far far too predictable and someone doing something unexpected might have helped instead of us passing it back and forth around the box.
     
  20. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ok, maybe Sid Lowe was on to something:

     
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  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We all know wenger was done
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Reading Pep Confidential opened my eyes to the likelihood that many top clubs are way shitter at stuff than we think despite the crazy pay rates

    Especially the revelation that Boateng lacked basic knowledge of zonal marking systems

    Essentially he was a very instinctive player who had winged it on his way to the top
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Or take Moyes

    Somehow he was allowed to fire Rene M and his team who had implemented ultra modern attacking systems for RvP and replaced it with his own 10 years out of date "crossing" approach

    Now of course Moyes was a perfectly good manager for a cannon fodder side, but how on earth did this man get promoted to Manager at Man Utd and how on earth was he allowed to sack a high performing team and replace them with clowns?

    So am i shocked that the enormous staff at Wenger's disposal can't manage to teach people how to play football properly?

    no

    We saw if in about a dozen players
     
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  24. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I remember reading that too. Mind blowing really. I feel like AW didn’t focus on defending a lot.

    Can we name defenders who actually improved under Wenger? Nacho, maybe Kos but he was good just seemed to mature. Who am I missing?
     
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  25. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Arsenal being proactive?
    [​IMG]
     
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