Rumor: Post World Cup Coaching Search Thread

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So like giroud??? you compare with france......and use our 9 to compare of referene that how we failed him with mbappe......

    France also use an inferior player that was reference in the area....

    Falcao game never have been caractherized because of speed...not in river, not in port and no in atletico............now the argument to critizices him is he is old and now slow, whene never giave advantages because of this....


    You dont blame....but you failed in make a good comparison...
     
  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ojala no volvamos a esos tiempos......pero pensar que el equipo actual y los resultados son una basura...es no tener los pies en la tierra.
     
  3. Bomb8

    Bomb8 Member+

    Jun 19, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Giroud doesn't have to be fast when you have a player with the speed and technical ability of Mbappe.
     
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  4. Bomb8

    Bomb8 Member+

    Jun 19, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't think anyone wants that to happen. We are just discussing what whent wrong. Most critics don't believe Pekerman is a shit coach. Pekerman is a good coach but it's completely reasonable to question some of his decisions.
     
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  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Did you watched france? giroud dint contributed nothing.....for me is silly that you compare mbappe and then blame the age of falcao like a cause of we failed....when he never have been fast.....but a 9 is compared with a 9....not like a wing with the cb.

    Falcao never have been fast.........he have had problem in the NT always when the team failed to attack.........and that doesnt mean that with a fast player would be better.............lara and pínto tried discarding him using other.....and the results wouldnt better...


    The problem was the line of 3 midfielders......quintero can play in the wings....so we played without a side.

    Pekerman failed to attack, i think he didnt want to attack......is a bad plan? dont know almost worked.....and england scored because a fake penalty.............but isnt like we can blame the caracherstic of one of oiur players that never have been fast....because his age
     
  6. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Have you seen crzd posts?? thata rfent reasonable questions, are just insults....
     
  7. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Tuvimos a Asprilla alguna vez...y gracias, me quedó con Falcao.

    +1000!!!!
     
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  8. Bomb8

    Bomb8 Member+

    Jun 19, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm sure Pekerman understood attacking would be difficult with his formation against England, but it's absurd to think he didn't want to attack at all. Defending for 120 mins and hoping to win the penalty shoot out would be a good tactic for Panama playing against Brazil but not for Colombia when facing a team that is not even world class.

    Why do you get so upset about crdz's posts? He is just doing his job.
     
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  9. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That's why I said Cuadrado and Muriel. On their shoulders rely the speed. Falcao don't have to be fast to play the counter attacking style, when you have those two on the field.
     
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  10. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But You just don't bench Falcao.
     
  11. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    To say he didn't have ambition is just short sighted, France won the World Cup playing more defensive and pragmatic. But look how their team was designed, they have two box to box midfielders and one destroyer, playing Matuidi is a bit negative but at least he can move forward and attack something that Rocca or Barrios can't do, also look at the design of his forwards. You can say Giroud didn't get any shots on goal but they won the World Cup with a CF who worked his ass off, occupied defenders, held the ball up and won balls to allow the speedy and skillful players to shine in Griez and Mbappe. We can criticize all we want a guy like Giroud but he was very useful in his role to allow them to get up the field after defending, Falcao does none of that unfortunately. France has more talent then us but Deschamps at least set his team up designed perfectly even if Giroud was limited offensively, his hold up and passing is still very good and just getting goals from a CF is not everything.


    Also if you look back at Pekermans history he tends to go more defensive in big games, he benched Messi in 2006 against Germany being defensive is one thing but Messi is the ultimate counter attack at 19 and he didn't even play. I think Pekerman is a good coach but his mistakes have held us back at a World Cup, he's taken us a great distance but its time to pass the baton.
     
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  12. CalamityX18

    CalamityX18 Member

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Jun 19, 2018
    be wary of Gareca to Colombia rumors.... with Sampoli out, who knows that any rumor involving Colombia and Gareca may be used as leverage with Argentina...

    doh!
     
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  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Good I don’t want him at Colombia

    Want Tite or Rueda. Chile can have Samp back
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    the rumours of gareca to colombia have arrived from peru and colombia...

    In argentina nobody talks about colombia and gareca,,,


    These are actually the rumours in argentina:

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  15. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    1018976566372651009 is not a valid tweet id
     
  16. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    on TyC they've mentioned a few times that Pekerman as GM and Gareca for the NT.

    If we don't get Osorio or Gareca then im not sure who exactly they have in mind or who they'd like.

    (no crzd, Tite will never come to Colombia)
     
  17. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I forgot about Lorenzo, im not sure what to make of him.
     
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  18. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It will be Lorenzo. Forget the rest of candidates. He fulfills the needs of the FCF, a bit of a puppet and yes man, foreign and hates the guts of Pekerman's agent.
     
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  19. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    probably my least favorite candidate, is he even a good manager? has ever managed anyone? Idk.

    I see it as a big risk
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    it could be our low....assistant of pekerman.

    actually in these years lorenzo have been more involved than pekerman plannning the tactics.....he was defender in his career, not experience in coaching

    dont know why he hated lezcano..
     
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  21. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #396 Baal88, Jul 16, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2018
    Nope. He hasn't coached any team. But he's been Pekerman assistant for a long time, around 15 years, nonetheless, that doesn't tell me anything about how good or bad of a coach he is.
     
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  22. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    To big of a risk to take an assistant with no track record from the same regime. Osorio or Gareca need to be the priority. Tite or Rueda have jobs, they aren't an option.
     
  23. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I guarantee you that It Will be a foreign coach, Osorio won't be considered.
     
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  24. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I wouldn't mind keeping Lorenzo. Is weird that he don't get along with Lezcano

    However Lezcano gets along very well with the players apparently

    http://m.eltiempo.com/deportes/futb...man-con-seleccion-colombia-y-argentina-244078



    [/QUOTE]
    6. Fuentes consultadas por EL TIEMPO aseguraron que no es cierto que la continuidad de Pékerman esté ligada a la salida de Pascual Lezcano, quien en el organigrama para el Mundial figuró como mánager del cuerpo técnico. También afirmaron que no es verdad que Lezcano haya pedido o sugerido algún empresario o algún grupo de personas para la realización de partidos amistosos de la Selección Colombia.
      • 7. En declaraciones al diario As, dos de los referentes de la Selección, Radamel Falcao García y Santiago Arias, defendieron la labor de Lezcano. “Pascual es muy importante para el buen funcionamiento de nuestro día a día y poder mantener nuestra organización al más alto nivel deportivo. Además es muy querido por los jugadores”, dijo Falcao. Y Arias agregó: “Vela por los intereses de todos los jugadores. Es dentro de nosotros muy importante”. Incluso, durante el Mundial, los jugadores le celebraron el cumpleaños a Lezcano con un asado en Kazán.

        8. Las funciones que cumple Lezcano corresponden a lo que sería un director deportivo de la Selección, un cargo que no existía. Al estar pendiente de muchos aspectos alrededor del equipo, su insistencia no le ha caído bien a algunos funcionarios de la Selección y se especula que tampoco a algunos directivos, que no lo ven con buenos ojos y le han generado algunas antipatías.
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  25. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    All of this is complete news to me...what are the full stories and who are the sources?
     

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