The Trump Presidency VII :: Simpletons, Wankpuffins, Bawbags & Erstwhile Lawyers

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  1. Bklyn Royals Fan

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  2. NORML

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    1. He has to cause he is beholden to the Russians and their money.
    2. He believes; based on their actions, the GOP won't turn on him, if the GOP won't turn on him who will challenge him in the primaries? Plus he is working to make sure the Russians can continue to interfere in our elections. No challenge from his right and with the Russians working to attack and weaken the left and never-Trumpers he has no fear as long as he keeps the mob bosses happy.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

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    There are exceptions downstate Illinois. Lots of towns (mostly those founded by New Englanders or New Yorkers, with colleges founded by men educated at Yale or Princeton) were abolitionists from the get-go, and heavy into the underground railroad.

    Towns and villages settled by Kentucky and Appalachia transplants . . . You got it right, there.
     
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  4. Dr. Wankler

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    There's a reason why Indiana was the key state for the Klan's 20th century revival.
     
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  5. HerthaBerwyn

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    The Bride was escorted down the aisle by Mr. Putin, the Paterfamilias.
     
  6. charlie15

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    This is a US Senator words.....What a time to live!

     
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  7. Dr. Wankler

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    And yet, they'll accuse you of race-baiting if you call them on that.
     
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  8. NGV

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    Much of that has been done only with Trump's grudging approval, or by essentially going over his head or behind his back.

    It's true that Russia hasn't gotten what they wanted most of all from Trump - cancellation of sanctions. That was due to Congress stepping in to make it clear that they wouldn't allow it (Michael Flynn being forcibly ejected early on also helped there). And while the GOP in Congress has been mostly submissive and enabling toward Trump's behavior, the fact that they forcefully ruled out those big and substantive concessions to Russia was notable and important. Trump would lift all the sanctions tomorrow if he thought he could get away with it.

    However, I think the fact that he's been stymied on some of that stuff has made Trump more eager to please Putin in other ways - to convince Putin that it's not Trump's fault that he hasn't delivered, and that Russia would be worse off with anyone else in the White House. That's part of why he goes out of his way to alienate allies and undermine NATO, and why he echoes Putin's ridiculous denials about the 2016 election and attacks his own intelligence agencies. It's also, I assume, why he assured Lavrov that he'd eased the "pressure" on himself by firing Comey.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    Neville++


     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Yes. He can get the briefing, call it "fake news" and then do what he pleases. Pretty sure that's what he's doing already.
     
  11. charlie15

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    Schumer goes there as well...

     
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  12. charlie15

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    Russian spy.....
     
  13. Deadtigers

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    I followed that tweet and there is comment after comment saying do something, stop talking.
     
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    Really? What about the huge amount of money that was donated for Haiti Relief? IIRC there was a giant kerfuffle about "where did the money go?".
     
  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    The rot is so deep

     
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    Maybe after they get Kavanagh, they will but he still can get them their dream judge.
     
  18. NORML

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    f*** Me. So the NRA since 2013 has been used as a go between for Russia and the GOP.
     
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    I honestly don't think Trump is being blackmailed, and any blackmail evidence Russia has is immaterial. Trump wears his brain on his sleeve, often blurting out secrets or his true feelings, and wouldn't be able to maintain a false front for long. He simply and honestly admires Putin as the powerful figure he aspires to be. Trump is deferential to Putin simply because he recognizes Putin's superiority on this personal level.
     
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    I'm not saying that couldn't be true--Trump is obviously fond of/looks up to ruthless autocrats who have nothing on him (Erdogen, Duarte, etc.) but there's just too much smoke around his ties to Russia for me to think there's no fire.

    It may just be money laundering rather than something prurient, but there's gotta be something.
     
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  21. dapip

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    #PartyOfTraitors

    And knowing that, the obstruction to Mueller, both at the House and the Senate makes complete sense.
     
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  22. superdave

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    Just bounce around the news sites. People are freaking out.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-worst-case-scenario-has-been-obvious-for-a-while

    "Something is fundamentally wrong here. There is no reasonable explanation for the simple facts we see other than that Russia has some kind of hold over President Trump.

    I know that sounds wild and I have a very hard time sometimes quite believing it myself. But it’s so overwhelmingly obvious that we need to get real with ourselves and recognize what is happening. I don’t know what the specific details are. I don’t know whether Russia has some compromising information on the President, whether they have enticed him with personal enrichment. I truly don’t know. But none of the standard explanations – truculence, trolling, anger over questioning the legitimacy of his election – none of them remotely add up as an explanation. In the future, when we know more details, we will have a difficult time explaining how any serious people continued to think there could be an innocent explanation."

    Once this dam breaks, once some of the MSM start speculating about this, I think it will spread pretty quickly. Because this performance was so abject and extreme, any other explanation besides Trump fearing Putin seems ludicrous. We just need that first person to say the emperor has no clothes, and then everyone will say it.
     
  23. superdave

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    Here's a question: How can Dan Coats not resign over this?????
     
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  24. usscouse

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    Schizophrenia much.
    Donald or Donny. Who will it be today.

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    I just don't know you anymore!
     
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  25. jmartin1966

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    none of this matters
     

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