QF July 7 Sweden v. England [R]

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018 - Knockout Rounds' started by mwjppgg, Jul 4, 2018.

  1. tripwire

    tripwire Member+

    Sep 23, 2012
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    There's also IPTV and DAZN to catch every game one would want.
     
  2. Bulldog1980

    Bulldog1980 Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Not really the same. And yes, in England, you're known as a bit plastic if you don't support your local club .

    Anyway let's not argue, I'm on .ayellow after all
     
  3. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    You can talk, you probably don't live Reading, you probably live in Tilehurst ;)
     
  4. Bulldog1980

    Bulldog1980 Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Haha no, castle hill. Down the allied arms if you know it .
     
  5. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    I'm RG1 too, just round the corner off the other side of the Oxford Road.
     
  6. logmarc

    logmarc Member

    None
    Belgium
    Jun 29, 2018
    Hi, I just looked at the odds for this game and I am a little bit taken aback :ninja:.
    Basically many think that England is at least twice more likely to win than sweden is. The English are also expected to do so within 90 minutes.
    It is seen, at times, as an even clearer favorite than Croatia is against Russia.

    While I can understand the overall argument in favor of England ( due to the qualities of its players). I do not see such a vast difference of level between the two team as a whole.

    What is the criteria that tips the balance so much in favor of England in your opinion ?
    The thing is, I do not follow the English league and I realize I may have a bias resulting from the early exits of England from previous competitions.
    I am sincerely curious, how is this team standing out from the previous ones ? Better coach, players or cohesion ? Do you see them as a clear favorite for this EURO 2018 :ROFLMAO: ?
     
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  7. Wolves1889

    Wolves1889 Member

    Mar 13, 2016
    Club:
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    The main criteria is that player for player England clearly has the upper hand.The public reacts to this.They see guys like Kane,Alli,Dier and so on all the time while most swedish players is much more low profile.
    Football,however,is a teamsport.Average Joe doesn´t fully understand this and there can be no doubt that the valuebets will come in for Sweden given these odds.
    I think that Southgate has managed to create a team of all the highprofile english players.It is a difference from from what has been going on for twenty previous years.
    Then again..it is very small margins.England loses to Colombia and Southgate would have been buried by now.

    All I can say is that on the day before the game I fancy our chances.
    I am sure that we will score...I am not at all sure that England will.
     
  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Harry kane against just below average defenders?...be honest
     
  9. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Another who thinks they know what most of us are thinking.
     
  10. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm confident about Egland's chances, but also cautious. Sweden are very well organized, but they lack pace on the break so I think they'll be very limited. Since we've gotten to the quarterfinals and breaking the penalty curse, I like our chances and won't have as much pressure on us.

    2-0 England.
     
  11. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    PKs. Only way England wins.
     
  12. white riot

    white riot Member+

    England
    Apr 27, 2005
    Southampton, England
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    TBF the country has gone mental, I think we could be accused fairly of overstating our chances, at least this time.
     
  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    No..we are just happy..the coming home part is just in jest
     
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  14. white riot

    white riot Member+

    England
    Apr 27, 2005
    Southampton, England
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's gone pretty nuts mate, as much as the coming home thing is us taking the piss out of ourselves
     
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  15. RealMadridEng

    RealMadridEng Member

    Real Madrid
    England
    Jun 27, 2018
    Sweden have performed well but I think this will be a step too far.

    Sweden 0 England 2
     
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  16. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Not sure of your source but I think it's pretty common to give England shorter odds. Lots of casual money going on and the bookies need to protect themselves from big payouts. Doesn't mean it is a real perception of the chance of winning.
     
  17. white riot

    white riot Member+

    England
    Apr 27, 2005
    Southampton, England
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Do you know any VPNs where I can get Swedish odds on England winning?
     
  18. toonarmy44

    toonarmy44 Member

    Aug 28, 2002
    Tyne and Wear
    You're Belgian and you don't follow the English leagues? you must not watch the vast majority of your squad play club football then!

    I don't think this team is particularly better than previous England squads, I do feel they are in a better system that suits the players better though. I also feel due to lower expectations they have been playing with less pressure than previous England teams which has also been beneficial. Of course we have also had an easier route than previous teams also which does help.

    One area we are better now though is in the striker department, Harry Kane is a big upgrade on a past his best Wayne Rooney from the last tournament. I also like Harry McGuire and Trippier who have really been stand out performers so far. Trippier's delivery has been very impressive so far.

    I may be biased but I do feel JonJo Shelvey should have been in the squad as we do not need three defensive midfielders in the form of Delph,Dier and Henderson. Shelvey has the vison and creativity to thread balls forward to runners with perfect weight of pass and would have been perfect when we had vardy and Rashford on against Colombia. However apart from this I do like what Southgate has done with this team and agree with most of what he has done.

    On paper England have the better players than Sweden so we do feel confident. We have to be cautious though as Sweden do play well as a team and are very organised and have showed this in their performances so far. They are physical and sound defensively.

    I am cautiously optimistic but I do think we will win in a close game.
     
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  19. toonarmy44

    toonarmy44 Member

    Aug 28, 2002
    Tyne and Wear
    I also think this is also the first time I have posted on this forum in over ten years....I was a teenager then and now I am in my 30's.I still remembered my username though!
     
  20. white riot

    white riot Member+

    England
    Apr 27, 2005
    Southampton, England
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Good luck 'Toon Army'
     
  21. white riot

    white riot Member+

    England
    Apr 27, 2005
    Southampton, England
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Watch yourself fella, enjoy the game mate
     
  22. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #72 Sandinista, Jul 6, 2018
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 7, 2018
    Good luck tomorrow getting to semis, mate! Specially from a Clash fan to another. Although i don't think you quite got the message from the songs...
     
  23. Krokko

    Krokko Member

    Nov 16, 2011
    Club:
    AIK Solna
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Hilarious!
     

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  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah that’s not a new one, been adapted from Brazil World Cup
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Wow the humour of some people..never stopped laughing...NOT!!
     

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