YNT-Eligible Players: 2018 US Open Cup

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  1. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neymar made 48 appearances when he was 17. Sergio Aguero made 54 appearances with Independiente before his 18th birthday. It’s not uncommon for a top prospect to get a good amount of minutes in his domestic league, especially if that league isn’t a top league. It doesn’t happen with every top player, but it’s also not common for a prospect to prove he’s ready to contribute and then have the manager go out and find someone to play in front of that prospect.
     
  2. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s a pretty weak argument if you’re just going to spit out all the guys who didn’t get a chance to get consistent minutes before they turned 18. Next I’m sure you’ll talk about Landon Donovan or you’ll mention that Dempsey went to college.
     
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  3. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    #153 NGV, Jun 23, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2018
    Neymar and Aguero level prospects are themselves far from common.

    And in the unlikely event that Carleton truly is a prospect with that level of potential - then we probably don't have much to worry about, regardless of where he happens to be playing on his 18th birthday.

    Roberto Baggio was playing in Serie C for Vicenza when he turned 18; and then a couple months later he wasn't playing at all (because he tore his ACL). He turned out fine anyway.
     
  4. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    I couldn't spit out all of those, because there are far too many. But highlighting some of them is a form of evidence - something which is generally seen as making arguments stronger, not weaker.

    If someone demands that US Soccer never give YNT national slots to players less than 5'8'' - because they believe that short people are inherently worse at soccer - an appropriate response would be to name some of the players below 5'7'' who have had good soccer careers. Similarly, when people insist that a lack of first-team, first-division playing time before age 18 is a cause for outrage, counterexamples are helpful. And finding counterexamples is incredibly easy, since lack of first team playing time before 18 is close to the norm.
     
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  5. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Akinola starts for TFC as the host Ottawa in the Canadian Championship semifinal. TFC won the away leg 1-0.

    Stream
     
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  6. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Akinola scores by picking up a clearance off the line and slotting it in.
     
  7. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And scores @TAB Ramos
     
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  8. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been watching for 5 minutes but Ayo has been great. I'll never forgive Tab if Ayo isn't called up for U20 qualifying.
     
  9. Sombrerito

    Sombrerito Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    May 6, 2018
    Is he playing winger or striker? Hopefully he can get more minutes in MLS! He seems to be improving
     
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  10. Sombrerito

    Sombrerito Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    May 6, 2018


    Akinola showing excellent composure for the goal
     
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  11. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is playing up top with Jozy.

    Halftime now. He was pretty quite on the ball before the goal from what I saw. Had a nice spin out of pressure in his own half to spring a counter after that. Did have a pretty dangerous back pass later that was able to be completed.
     
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  12. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For those interested in such things, the Canadian broadcast asked Jason de Vos who is the CSA Director of Development about Akinola and he basically punted on the question.
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    That was a much better goal than most will realize. Had to burst down there to get to it then soften his touch then slot it near post to avoid a lunging defender but not put it wide. He had a really small window and very little time and finished it nicely.
     
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  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    Akinola is a better CF option for qualifying than Rennicks, Dorsey, Brewer, etc. If Sargent, Weah and Soto all aren't available, he should definitely be called up, and possibly start. Are any of the '01 CF's better than him? Its to be determined, but I think Akinola isn't that bad playing as a CF. It simplifies his decisions. He's fast, physical and he finds the ball near goal. He could turn himself into a Teal Bunbury level player. I don't see why not.
     
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  15. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Sombrerito

    Sombrerito Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    May 6, 2018
    Would be a crime if Tab doesn’t have him on the team for the u20s... US is lacking in having multiple young CF prospects. I don’t want to lose Ayo to Canada
     
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  17. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's possible Akinola could be the *top* U20-eligible CF available for World Cup qualifying if Weah, Sargent, Soto aren't available.
     
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  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I still don't think so. Even just in the '00 year, he's probably 4th CF at best. Strong year and all, but I still don't see Akinola as more than a player who maybe gets a couple caps. He just doesn't have a high ceiling due to his strengths and weaknesses, IMO.

    I don't want to voluntarily give him over to Canada, but I think losing Akinola to Canada will not matter.
     
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  19. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
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    Ayo might eventual find a level where his game tops out, but so far despite limitations he seems to excel at the one skill that is more important than any other and that is putting the ball in the net.

    Don’t see how he couldn’t be a lock for U20 honestly especially when you factor who just got called up.
     
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  20. Sup Bro

    Sup Bro Member+

    Oct 26, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve always figured Ayo will eventually switch to Canada because it’s a numbers game. Unless his development takes off like a rocket, he’ll get a chance with the CANMNT before the USMNT calls.

    Also, they’ve got some exciting young attackers so it’s not a bad option at all.
     
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  21. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Maybe, but we're talking about a country that hasn't even made the Hex since 1998. With that said, assuming Canada qualifies automatically for 2026, when Akinola will be in his mid-20s, they have a nice carrot to offer dual nationals.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    The good news about Akinola is he seems to be advancing
    Sure........................but um, we also have that carrot :)

    I don't think this will be an issue with Ayo as long as we keep him involved in the program. He apparently has dismissed speculation regarding CanMNT in the recent past.
     
  23. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Fair. Though my point was more that they're presumably going to be an easier World Cup roster to make.
     
  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe I'm off, but I actually don't see why Canada couldn't be third best in CONCACAF within five years. They underachieve compared to their talent pool.

    In 2026, they could have a team of

    GK: Crepeau, Pantemis, Busti
    DF: Dunn-Johnson, Tomori, Meilleur-Giguere, Cornelius, Adekugbe, Brault-Guillard, Cordova, Petrasso
    MF: Osorio, Eustaquio, Kaye, Okello, Davies, Tabla, David, Colyn
    FW: Larin, Cavallini, Akinola, Millar

    I think thats probably pretty weak defensively and in goal, but offensively thats not that bad.

    Crepeau
    Brault Guillard-Cornelius-Tomori-Adekugbe
    Kaye-Okello
    Tabla-Davies-Millar
    Larin
     
  25. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A 2026 projected Canadian World Cup lineup in a thread for YNTers in the Open Cup? Only on BigSoccer. ;)
     

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