MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread

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I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS

Poll closed Sep 30, 2018.
  1. Veljko Paunović

    12.0%
  2. Gregg Berhalter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Ben Olsen

    23.1%
  4. Mauro Biello

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jay Heaps

    13.7%
  6. Patrick Vieira

    2.6%
  7. Jesse Marsch

    0.9%
  8. Jason Kreis

    4.3%
  9. Jim Curtin

    15.4%
  10. Greg Vanney

    0.9%
  11. Óscar Pareja

    1.7%
  12. Wilmer Cabrera

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Sigi Schmid

    5.1%
  14. Adrian Heath

    10.3%
  15. Caleb Porter

    0.9%
  16. Mike Petke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Chris Leitch

    2.6%
  18. Brian Schmetzer

    0.9%
  19. Peter Vermes

    1.7%
  20. Carl Robinson

    4.3%
  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always like to point out to Salt Lake fans that during their great years under Kreis they won the same number of trophies as the Rapids did in that period.
     
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  2. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We love you, too, JasonMa.
     
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  3. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    You were right. I was wrong. I do not think that I was too vocal in my support for Kreis but I do remember thinking that the new fans of NYC FC didn’t really know what they were talking about.

    I figure you deserve to have somebody come out and say that they were wrong.
     
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  4. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Orlando reminds me of TFC when they came in. Great fans, great stadium, owners who want to spend, but none of it matters if you keep hiring the wrong coaches, bringing in the wrong players, and failing to develop a cohesive organization-wide plan dictating how you want to play and how things will be structured.
     
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  5. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's very cool. Frankly, it's the last thing I'd expect. Unnecessary, but still very enjoyable to have my moment.

    Now, let's see how Dome does. If he can ever get a work visa, that is. Damnedest thing I've ever heard that the guy is waiting on papers to come coach...can't he just say he's on vacation when he gets to customs?
     
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  6. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    Add me to that list. I still like Kreis, but he's got to produce in his next hire.
     
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  7. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. LimeTree

    LimeTree Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I thought Orlando was the next hire?
     
  9. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, add me to the list of people who thought that Kreis got a raw deal in New York, and that the Orlando situation would be better for him.

    Welp.

    As an adherent to Bill Parcells’ famous maxim that you are what your record says you are, I can’t argue with his firing. His MLS Cup in 2009 is looking more like the exception that defines the rule.
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, if he wants to be banned from the country for a decade.
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Ex-coaches of NY/NJ MLS teams are currently 2-0 (Osorio/Mexico, Queiroz/Iran)...
     
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  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seltzer: Five candidates to succeed Kreis at OCSC

    There are plenty of fine unemployed managers at this time (and surely more who can be had after the World Cup ends). Our honorable mentions — a blend of MLS assistants Marc Dos Santos at LAFC and Kerry Zavagnin at Sporting Kansas City with experienced foreign managers Matias Almeyda, Leonardo and Gertjan Verbeek — would actually make for a decent list.

    But those guys didn't quite make our list. Here's who did, in alphabetical order...

    Guillermo Barros Schelotto
    Robin Fraser
    James O'Connor
    Caleb Porter
    Josh Wolff

    Alphabetical order just happens to match the order in which they should be considered...


     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is...............interesting. The potential for this to end in disaster is pretty high. Flavio hiring his friends.......hiring your friends doesn't always go well.........
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Here's to hoping then. If they're not going to be good (and with the players they have, they won't be), then at least let them be interesting.
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    10 months and 765 posts later and
    I STILL cannot believe that Veljko Paunović has a job.

    He is a terrible coach, tactically inept, easy to anger, awful line-up planning, plays favorites over better players, only concerned about players who "try hard" regardless of skill level, poor game management skills, atrocious substitution policy and he has a really crappy beard.

    Other than that, I guess he is okay.
     
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  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you practice cheerfully you have a GREAT chance of starting the next game.
     
  18. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bro you just described Jason Kreis's tenure with NYCFC expect the beard and I think that in Jason's case that may have been an improvement. It's shocking to me as well that Paunovic hasn't been fired, not as shocking as DC not getting rid of Olsen but its pretty close.
     
  19. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because when you're job is to build a roster from scratch its probably a good idea to draft players that can actually take the field. In drafting John he's adding unnecessary dead weight to the line up and you need every hand you can get on an expansion team IMO.
     
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah.. You shouldn’t build your team from the expansion draft. You might get a few starters, but it’s mostly a way to build your bench. Quite a few of the expansion teams take burner picks that might pan out. Montreal took Brian Ching thinking they could ransom him back to Houston. Portland and Vancouver took players that went abroad and weren’t likelynto return before their rights expired.

    With expansion teams, the team is built from the giant pile of GAM and TAM they get that can be used to trade for actual starters, or bring in higher value players that can be bought down.

    George John was a pretty good defender (by MLS standards at that time). Burning an expansion pick to get him was likely worth the risk. Obviously he never recovered from his injury, but it isn’t any worse than burning a pick on a player that isn’t even in thr league any more..
     
  21. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd been totally fine with the move if that was the case as you described but last I remember none of those expansion teams drafted a player that was unable to play for a year, had no interest from any other MLS team or elsewhere for that matter AND was kept on the roster for the whole damn year. That move is just plain ole idiotic.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    George John was on the IR. He didn’t eat up any spots on their team.
     
  23. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But he shouldn't have been on the team anyway, they could have had Ben Sweat, Stephan Keel, AJ Soares. If he wanted to "take a chance" he could have drafted Andy Dorman or some other MLS starter level who wasn't coming off a major knee injury. In the end it was a dumb move and it couldn't have helped managements view of him.
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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