By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
  1. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines

    Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

    By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
    TOPIC ONE - A Bridgeview Too Far!

    Let’s start off with a completely beanbrained, crackpot theory.

    You’ll want the backstory first. A modified form of rounders is extremely popular in parts of the United States of America. One of the most popular “baseball” clubs – that’s what the sport is called there - is based in Chicago. This team is variously known as the White Stockings, the Orphans, the Colts, and more recently the Cubs. Having recently won the World Cup of Rounders – no British teams seem to have entered – the family that owns the Cubs are going to run, and build a stadium for, a USL team.

    Naturally, everyone speaking an Indo-European language has reacted “Uh, what about the Fire?” or words to that effect. So here’s the theory, and it’s based on how history is cyclical. The Cubs play in Wrigley Field. But they did not build Wrigley Field. That would be weird if they did, because they’re baseball players and not carpenters or masons or construction workers.

    Wrigley Field was built by the owner of the Chicago Whales of the Federal League in 1914, and it was called Weeghman Field after its owner. The Federal League quickly became what it is today, the Whales moved to Shedd Aquarium, and the nicest baseball stadium in town – if not the world – lay empty. Weeghman sold it to the Wrigley family, who owned the Cubs. They have played there ever since.

    I think it would be a delightful turn of events if the Cubs owners, a little over a hundred years later built a beautiful soccer stadium, and then sold it to their more established competitors.

    Or, it’s possible that Nelson Rodriguez is shepherding an owner transition as much as a franchise rebuild. I’m basing this mostly on his previous job, helping make Chivas USA what it is today.

    There’s nothing that says Bridgeview and Lincoln Park can’t have perfectly adequate competing teams, much like the Cubs and the White Sox. I honestly don’t know how much of a cautionary tale the Chicago Cardinals are here. The NFL was not the big deal in 1960 that it would be even ten years later, and the Cardinals franchise was a feeble joke for most of human history. And now that it seems like Andrew Hauptman has found his wallet, it’s certainly plausible that Chicago soccer could host dueling billionaires.

    I don’t want to run down what was Toyota Park, what was going to be Bridgeview Park, and what will instead be SeatGeek Stadium. It was certainly a pretty thing when it opened, although perhaps I’m comparing it too much to Naperville’s Cardinal Stadium and that horrifying remodel of Soldier Field. The stadium has been a long-documented disappointment to both MLS team and the Village of Bridgeview, the lifespan of stadiums in this gilded age of athletics is artificially brief, and the Fire don’t own the place anyway. If Precourt Sports Ventures can run now-Mapfre Stadium into the ground, then it’s worrying for teams playing in stadiums they don’t own or control.

    But FC Dallas, and the USSF, has made a huge commitment to Frisco’s Toyota Stadium (not to be confused with my God, stadium naming rights are the ever-loving pits). The once-Pizza Hut Park is owned municipally, and is of similar vintage to the Fire’s Bridgeview home. Bridgeview even has an NWSL team that will hopefully continue to grow into it.

    There’s also this weird wrinkle – back in 2016, Guillermo Rivera reported on a potential sale of the Fire that, obviously, did not go through. Some of the reasons why that sale did not go through may have been listed as Rivera reported these items about the Fire’s 30-year lease with Bridgeview:

    The Fire pay an annual Facility Fee originally set at $300,000.00 that increases at 2% every year. They also cover event expenses for each use of the facility.

    Naming rights are owned by the Village, along with marketing and advertising rights for the stadium. The team does however retain subsidiary naming rights for areas within the stadium.



    The Fire have to reimburse the Village for any home games held outside of the facility. International friendlies included.

    No MLS team can play in the Chicago market area in any stadium other than Toyota Park, even if the Fire cease operations.



    The team is responsible for reimbursing the Village for use of ancillary facilities, including the main field for practice sessions.

    Concessions and box office are controlled by the Village, although there are shared revenues.

    Shared revenues include: Team at 92% of gross ticket revenue; 50% split of net parking and net concession revenue; Team receives 30% net license, net event suite revenue, and net sponsorship revenue. Team receives 22.5% of gross merchandise revenue.

    The lease is down to less than twenty years now, at least. Any MLS expansion bid offering these terms today, would have been kicked out of the room, via the window. It would be more surprising if the Fire weren’t trying to leave Bridgeview, or at least drastically renegotiate. And thanks to Mr. Precourt, we have confirmation that MLS considers stadium leases as sacred as the NFL does. If these terms are close to true, it shows what an act of aggression last year’s Soldier Field All-Star Game truly was.

    MLS abandoning Chicago is completely unthinkable, of course. Right? Sure, the NFL did without Los Angeles for over twenty years, but MLS can’t be that deluded. Right? I mean, they started the league without Chicago, but remedying that error was just about the first thing they did. They’d rather play in Bridgeview than nowhere. Right? It’s probably just as well that Precourt Sports Ventures has made moving an MLS franchise look extremely painful. If the road out of town is strewn with rakes for the Crew, there is little out there that would tempt the Fire. Right?

    There’s also the tiny possibility that the story is as it seems at face value. The Ricketts family has seen what has transpired in places like Sacramento and Cincinnati, and they want in. USL is where the action is, for a given definition of USL (id est, not MLS reserve teams). I’m skeptical, though, because places like Sacramento and Cincinnati had MLS in their crosshairs from the jump. So much so, in fact, that it will be very interesting to see what happens to whichever (or both?!) has their dream deferred. The example of Indy Eleven is…not reassuring.

    The wild card here are the Bronfman family, who are the very deep pockets behind Andrew Hauptman. Hauptman has been extremely quiet of late – no more op-eds on the team site about how awful the fans are. Boy, there’s a guy who is happy Precourt came along to wrest the Worst MLS Owner belt away. The Bronfmans seem to have no interest in the Fire, but then all of a sudden they let Nelson Rodriguez buy Bastian Schweinsteiger, and the team is even included in conversations for Fernando Torres. Attendances went up last year, what with them not stinking up North America and all. No one even brings up the Jermaine Jones coin flip loss anymore.

    It’s entirely possible that with the Ricketts family involved, that may inspire to Bronfmans that matter to look at what their fellow billionaires have been up to lately. Their opinions on a North Side soccer team, assuming they have any, will count for a great deal.

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    TOPIC TWO - Grassed Off!

    As of this moment, it’s hoped that the Kemar Lawrence injury against Atlanta won’t be as frightening as it appeared. Let’s hope he makes a full recovery very quickly – so we can have an intelligent discussion about artificial turf.

    Right now six MLS teams play on it. As a comparison, only Tijuana plays on it in Liga MX. Wikipedia does not list playing surfaces for Premiership, La Liga, Bundesliga or Serie A, but I think we can draw the obvious conclusion that they play on natural grass.

    There’s probably a very interesting book somewhere about how so much of the world’s sports culture comes from British lawn grass. For a given definition of “very interesting.”

    But let’s sit down for a hot second and think. “Natural” grass, by and large, isn’t. The Fire, as I learned during the course of my exhaustive research on their stadium – okay, Wikipedia again – play on Kentucky bluegrass. Kentucky bluegrass is not native to North America. “Since the 1950s and early 1960s, 90% of Kentucky bluegrass seed in the United States has been produced on specialist farms in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.”

    There’s a reason Canadian football, Argonauts aside, play on artificial turf. There’s a reason the Women’s World Cup was played on artificial turf in 2015. Natural grass isn’t going to be a cheap solution everywhere. And as long as MLS shares facilities with other sporting pursuits, there will be financial incentives to carpet instead of plant.

    Which leaves two options for MLS athletes (and fans, I suppose, but let’s be fair, it ain’t our ankles on the chopping block). One, hope for technology to improve. It doesn’t seem that tough an ask, does it? Human beings have domesticated maize corn and mastered chia pet technology, fake grass that doesn’t blow out knees shouldn’t be that hard. But for years sports owners hoped they could get away with an inch of green carpet over solid god-damned concrete. A few years ago we had high hopes that shredded used tires would provide a solution. History will look back on us the way we look at Milo Minderbinder’s attempts to sell chocolate-covered cotton.

    The other option is to hope that two historically inept unions join forces. The NFLPA doesn’t like fake stuff, either. In theory, concerted action by MLS and NFL players against turf should yield positive results. In theory, a boycott of the Women’s World Cup should also have yielded positive results. Both technology and organization look like very long-term propositions.

    So we’re going to be stuck with the status quo for a long time. Thierry Henry-tier players can beg off games on carpet, and Kemar Lawrence-tier players will have to hope for the best.

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    TOPIC THREE - Hey! Fanbase! Leave the Kids Alone!

    There is currently a fifteen-year-old performing very, very well in the USL. We, the American soccer fanbase, are going to leave him alone to develop according to what’s best for him. The only opinions that matter are his, his family, and to a vastly lesser extent his coaches and club. We are fans and spectators. Our job is to watch. If our opinion is desired, I’m sure someone relevant will ask. We’re not doing this Freddy Adu crap again.

    This fifteen-year-old currently plans to play for a country that may not be the United States of America. We are going to let this teenager decide for himself what’s in his heart and what’s best for his career. Yes, we’ve gone berserk over players choosing other nations to represent, and every time we’ve done that it’s been funny and charming. I’m sure Rossi, Subotic and Gonzalez all had a jolly laugh over it. It’s not so funny and charming when the target is a minor. We’re all familiar with the college sports fans who Tweet at recruits. We’re not doing that crap either.

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    TOPIC FOUR - Bicenquinquagenary the Dawn's Early Light!

    So the President of the United States, whose name escapes me for the moment, has decided to publicly lobby for the US to host the World Cup. (Can we admit at this point that Mexico and Canada are basically the other two from Destiny’s Child? Sure, if it were about World Cup history it would be Canada and the US as the Pips. But it’s about that do-re-mi, as Woody Guthrie sang.)

    This has probably screwed over the bid entirely, because FIFA is a flaming sack of crap crammed inside a smaller bag which is also full of crap and is also on fire. And also because government and soccer are supposed to be kept strictly separate, otherwise FIFA might find itself subject to laws or something.

    But I wanted to remind the fanbase that however one feels about President – what IS that fellow’s name, I should look it up, Bing should know – and that while Morocco isn’t the kleptomaniacal human rights black hole to quite the same degree that current and future World Cup hosts, those of us partial to freedom of the press, women’s equality and LGBTQ rights should probably still hope the World Cup comes back to North America.

    One might reasonably argue that the World Cup will spur greater freedom and civil rights in Morocco, however. Let’s see how that works in Russia and Qatar.

    One more thing that hasn't been talked up much. 2026 will be the 250th anniversary of the United States – at least, the Declaration of Independence - and the World Cup will fall smack in the middle of that. Come on, planet! Let’s have a party! The Rock will be President by then, won't he?

    A cynic might also say “Why NOT support little countries’ bids, because the World Cup has become such a leviathan that only superpowers and regional alliances will be able to host? Qatar is going to fail, just wait.”

    Well, that’s a terrible and awful thing for a remarkably poorly-veiled version of myself to say. If there was a shred of evidence that hosting megasports like the World Cup and the Olympics did a blooming thing for cities or nations, I’d be sad that the vast majority of the globe is ruled out from ever hosting.

    But it would be a chance to right one of the wrongs from the last bids of the Sepp Blatter era. It’s too late to move the Russia World Cup, of course, but perhaps Qatar can be persuaded to send the World Cup to the home of football. England, not Russia, should have hosted this year’s pageant, but for people exactly like Chuck Blazer accepting bribes from people exactly like Vladimir Putin. What would be even better, though, is a United Kingdom bid. Scotland’s history and contribution to the sport deserves official international celebration, in my opinion. It would certainly help the moribund Celtic and Debris status of the domestic game. It’s unlikely Wales would be left out, thanks to having a pretty good stadium. And we could spare Northern Ireland a game or two, because any excuse to unreasonably cut into Europe’s World Cup allocation will do for me.

    Even if they don’t get the 2022 World Cup away from the Persian Gulf, a British World Cup should and will happen sooner than later. Unless the United Kingdom plans to do something outrageously self-destructive on a political scale that would sever most of its economic and political alliances, throwing itself and Europe into turmoil, but nobody would ever be that silly. Here’s to Washington in ’26 and London in ’30!

    ….oh, wait, Uruguay should really host the centennial of the World Cup, shouldn’t they. It's only fair. Okay, London in ’34! Whether as part of a larger Oceania bid, or a separate smaller bid for Airstrip One.
     
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Discussion in 'Articles' started by Dan Loney, May 22, 2018.

    1. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      On turf -- the new book Shoeless Soccer suggests that a major reason we stink at soccer is that our kids play on grass instead of pavement or turf.

      And turf is indeed getting better. The latest technology of shock pads with no rubber infill seems promising. But at least for now, it ain't cheap.
       
    2. kenntomasch

      kenntomasch Member+

      Sep 2, 1999
      Out West
      Club:
      FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      To paraphrase Dennis Miller from when Dennis Miller was funny, the culpability flow chart of why we stink at soccer seems to resemble the genealogy of the kid on the porch in Deliverance.

      Also, I thought a developer not named Ricketts was actually building the stadium. Or did he decide to just do that, too?
       
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    3. American Brummie

      Jun 19, 2009
      There Be Dragons Here
      Club:
      Birmingham City FC
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      Come for the article, stay for the poll
       
    4. Bill Archer

      Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 19, 2002
      Washington, NC
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States
      #5 Bill Archer, May 23, 2018
      Last edited: May 23, 2018

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      Interestingly, the "President" of Precourt Sports Vultures, Dave "Funny Uncle" Greeley, was previously President of the aforementioned Chicago Fire.

      Formerly a soccer-denigrating tubesteak, he took a team which had been surging at the ticket window, with healthy attendance increases year-over-year for four years until they were averaging almost 17,000 per game and in just 24 months managed to chase them down to barely 14,000 butts in seats per.

      A one man Dragon Stadium.

      Recognizing that this was not a trend that they wanted to continue, they canned his ass or, as it was explained, he "wanted to pursue other opportunities", which turned out to be mostly the opportunity to spend a lot more time on the internet and picking the kids up from school.

      Then along came Fratboy McTrustfund who, either by a miraculous Holy inspiration or a suggestion from Don Garber, hired this self-same attendance immolator to head up the Columbus Crew. Not that he actually, you know, moved to Columbus or even spent much time there. He worked - still does - out of a home office in his basement in Chicago, running the vast PSV sports empire from behind the furnace, amid the unused exercise equipment and boxes of Christmas decorations.

      Although he does now seem to be able to leave home after all, since he's as ubiquitous a presence in Austin Texas as tacos and neckbeards. Maybe the kids are old enough to drive.

      Like Rodriguez in Chicago, his professional soccer resume contains only what on the face of it appears to be dismal failure. Is it incompetence, or something more sinister?
       
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    5. Dan Loney

      Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 10, 2000
      Cincilluminati
      Club:
      Los Angeles Sol
      Nat'l Team:
      Philippines

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      One of the things Precourt and Greeley have done, that Rodriguez did not either at Chicago or CUSA, is devalue the stadium. The latest reports of the state of Columbus Crew Stadium are completely inexcusable. I know why they're not maintaining it, of course, but deliberately lowering the value of the team to discourage buyers has to factor into the Modell Law suit somewhere.
       
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    6. Bill Archer

      Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 19, 2002
      Washington, NC
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      Well, you're certainly right on that. Honestly, the condition is shocking. Nevermind the rodents and the non-functioning rest rooms with doors that are falling off the stalls, the 30% of the bulbs in the field lights that are burned out and all the rest: it's the general filth.

      You walk though the concourse and the soles of your feet stick to the floor. It's their way of showing contempt for Columbus, the fans and the building.They're not going to spend a dime on basic hygiene and you can't make them. Neener-neener-neener.

      And I agree: I can't believe that either their lease or the law allows them to get away with this. The Board of Health has cited the food stands for mouse droppings and they got caught selling meat products which were a month past date but beyond that someone in the vast Nanny State apparatus designed to keep us all healthy and safe there ought to be a way to force them to at least push a mop around the place once in a while.
       
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    7. RafaLarios

      RafaLarios Member+

      Oct 2, 2009
      Medellín
      Club:
      Atletico Nacional
      Nat'l Team:
      Colombia

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      I was "researching" his linkedin page and I saw exactly that. I don't know but I don't recall him being president of the Fire, but my mind is always hazy. And I inmediatelly tought: Is this man really ruining TWO MLS franchises?. It has to be malice.

      His motto is:

      Leader * Org Builder * Value Creator

      I guess anyone can put crap on their resume.
       
    8. mschofield

      mschofield Member+

      May 16, 2000
      Berlin
      Club:
      Union Berlin
      Nat'l Team:
      Germany

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      Until the point when MLS teams have this latest tech, can we have a rule banning bald white guys from playing on field turf? It's like watching Col Kurtz do a Norman Bates impersonation (I wouldn't hurt a fly)
       
    9. (They call him) RMc

      Jun 1, 2013
      Club:
      Celtic FC

      Potpourri - Two Chicago Teams? Plus, support the Bicenquinquagenary Cup!

      By Dan Loney on May 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM
      Can we admit at this point that Mexico and Canada are basically the other two from Destiny’s Child?

      More like Mexico is Andrew Ridgeley and Canada is the third guy in Wham! (Ha! You thought there was a third guy in Wham! for a second, didn't you? Well, even the imaginary third guy got more respect than Ridgeley ever did.)
       
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