Let the rebuild start... Summer 2018 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #601 chjoak, May 22, 2018
    Last edited: May 22, 2018
    Further evaluation of the current roster vs Emery's typical tactics...

    4-3-3 formation

    ----------- ST ------------
    LW -------------------RW
    ---- DLP ------- CM ----
    ----------- DM ------------
    LB --- CB --- CB --- RB
    ----------- GK -------------

    or

    ----------- ST ------------
    LW -------------------RW
    ----------- CM ------------
    ---- DLP ------- DM ----
    LB --- CB --- CB --- RB
    ----------- GK -------------

    ST - PAE, Laca, Welbeck
    LW - Miki, PAE, Iwobi, Welbeck
    RW - Ozil, Iwobi, Nelson, Welbeck
    DLP - Xhaka, Wilshire, Iwobi
    CM - Ramsey, AMN, Iwobi
    DM - ElNeny
    RB - Bellerin
    LB - Nacho, Kola
    CB - Mustafi, Chambers, Holding, Mavropanos
    GK - Cech, Ospina

    Thoughts

    - ST is in decent shape. Personally I would like to keep Laca around for another season to see what he can accomplish in a new scheme. Really want Welbeck replaced with a younger option with better touch that can more effectively play W.
    - W is in pretty good shape.
    - I think DLP & CM are actually in good shape. Need to give those 2 spots a season to see if they can adjust to the new system. I think Xhaka & Ramsey will be a good pairing for Emery as long as he can help correct some of their habits.
    - DM needs another player badly. I think ElNeny has potential but we A) can't go with just 1 player and B) need a quality starter.
    - CB is obviously an issue. I'd be willing to give Mustafi a chance next to a veteran CB with a track record for directing the back line. Not opposed to replacing him either. If we have 2 healthy vet starters, I think we will be ok with the 3 young-uns as backups.
    - LB is in good shape for next season but we desperately need a backup RB to challenge Bellerin and provide depth fro EL & FA cup.
    - We could stick with our current GK tandem if we had to but it would be really nice to upgrade Ospina and move Cech to the backup role.

    Short version...
    Needs - 1 DM, 1-2 CB, RB
    Wants - GK, ST/W
     
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  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Lacazette needs to stick around for two reasons. One, he makes the forward corps significantly better than it would be otherwise, and bringing in another player of his quality will be prohibitively expensive. Two, if Aubameyang gets hurt and Lacazette is gone, that team has a glaring lack of pace.

    Beyond that, for as frustrating as he was for parts of the season, Lacazette still averaged a goal every 162 minutes (197 if you don't include penalties). That's not bad for a guy in his Premier League debut season.
     
  3. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    I feel what you are saying but Lacazette isn’t fast either.
     
  4. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Laca isn't really fast but doesn't necessarily need to be within this system.
     
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  5. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006

    True, the rule is based a limit of 17 Non home grown players, but the impact is on squad size. If any of the seven homegrown players listed by mebeSajid are sold, their roster spots cannot be filled by non homegrown players. So Arsenal would have to use U21s or buy domestically to fill out the roster. On a team where quality depth is already an issue, this is a potential problem.
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

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    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
  7. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    That is technically incorrect. If you look at my breakdown. we have 2 international spots to work with before anyone is sold, so technically we could sell Welbeck and Chambers and replace them both with internationals. The caveat to that is that we are using existing U21s on the 25-man roster. Considering we already had 4 U21s (AMN, Mavropanos, Nelson & Nketiah) that got minutes at some point this season, thats not a huge deal unless we feel a need to get those guys loaned out. At a minimum, I have a feeling that AMN and possibly Mavropanos will figure into the 1st team this season.
     
  8. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
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    Arsenal FC
    GK is an absolute must-buy. Cech was as bad as any of our defenders last year, and Ospina was not much better.

    Maybe Emery can organize our defense to be better, but you can't help a 36 year old Cech turn back the clock six years.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Unless we play a low line
     
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  10. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    I want a new GK but given the budget and other needs (CB, DM, backup RB) I think we could get by if we had to. A better organized D keeps some of those goals from ever happening.
     
  11. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
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    The hate for Wilshere is strong in this thread. If it wasn’t for his injuries, he would’ve been one of the best midfielders out there. Too bad he’s a player made of glass.
     
  12. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    I’m still wondering what exactly he does well. He’s not a bad player, but I don’t see anything special at all. Honestly, outside of the Barca games a few years ago and his time in the youth academy, he never really did anything special to me.
     
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  13. cantona94

    cantona94 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
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    Arsenal FC
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    This. I’ve never understood the worship this guy gets from some people.
     
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  14. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He’s decent at carrying the ball from deep and short quick one twos etc

    But he’s played too far forward

    Pair him with a dm and an attacking cm he’s fine if coaches to not go forward too much
     
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  15. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

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    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
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    #615 JoCryuff98, May 23, 2018
    Last edited: May 23, 2018
    Wilshere was pretty much a key component of Wengerball alongside Rosicky. He was pretty darn good during 2012-13 season, but unfortunately he turned out to be another Gascoigne. If he wasn’t really “special” then Xavi, Iniesta, Pep Guardiola etc wouldn’t have praised him. His poor attitude and injuries played a key role in his failure to become one of the best midfielders in modern gen.
     
  16. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    His touch can be sublime and he can beat players one v one, but he has never shown a particular proclivity for scoring or providing assists and his defensive qualities are suspect. He has more career yellow cards than goals and assists combined.
     
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  17. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    According to news out of Spain, Lucas may be sticking around. It is being reported that the team has asked him to report for preseason training 7/2 and is claimed that Emery is a fan of him as a player. Thought he played very well for us in limited minutes under Wenger. Not opposed to seeing what he can do under a different manager. Little older than I would like but could be the ST/W type that I would like to see taking Welbeck's minutes.
     
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  18. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Now this is the type of comic relief I need
     
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  19. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    You are one hilarious character
     
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  20. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    What is with the hate on Welbeck? Dude runs half the teams in the league ragged, and against the other half we have 2 very good strikers.
     
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  21. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    If running was all one needed to do to be a top shelf striker I'd be Pele
     
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  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    he does well at being English
     
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  23. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
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    United States
    That touch might still be there - I don't think so - but the burst he equally needed, to get away from a marker, is long dead. He STILL does not release the ball fast enough as well. Continues to hold onto possession or tries an extra dribble too often. Just not tidy enough with the ball and has physically declined due to injuries.
     
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  24. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welbeck is a defensive forward. He needs to be used like Park was under Fergie.
     
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  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd have nothing against him having a 2nd go with us, but unfortunately his position is already pretty well stocked, no? Too bad we don't seem to have an analogous loanee who's a decent CB or DM.
     

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