News: And our new manager is...UNAI EMERY?!

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  1. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Thats PR trash
     
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  2. BIGHMW

    BIGHMW Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Port Townsend, WA
    Club:
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    Another reason to retire my AK47 song "Arsenal", as Santi Cazorla has left after his contract ran out.

    https://www.arsenal.com/news/santi-cazorla-leaves-club

    So now that leaves only Aaron Ramsey, and Mesut Ozil in the song lyrics that were written back in 2014, inspired by and patterned after a generic karaoke version of Maroon 5's "Animals" I downloaded off of a YouTube video and wrote my hit song after, SHIT!
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    This sounds like post-hoc PR put forth to justify the hire.

    Also, saying Auba and Ramsey are our key players? Mesut Ozil demands you apologize.
     
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  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    I feel like we've hired the Basque Brendan Rodgers.
     
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  5. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm fairly ambivalent on Emery--except that by some accounts it seems he wears out his welcome with squads in due time, similar to Mourinho. He's a decent developer, an excellent tactician, and a poor motivator/people-person is the perception I'm getting. We'll see if that's true, but it's certainly a very opposite profile of what we had before and seems like a case of over-correction.

    But the decision-making process is an alarming sham. The reason I was excited about Arteta was less about Arteta himself and more that it seemed our organizational structure was finally set up in a way where the club were willing to show they have balls and take risks. Arteta was an extraordinary risk that could have paid off marvelously--unearthing a gem of a new manager is huge--or could have busted spectacularly. But tbh, regardless of how much we bitch about it, the floor for Arsenal is basically set--we were terrible this year and we only briefly looked in danger of finishing below sixth.

    This U-turn is bad in many ways: it shows that Gazidis is a clown; that he has no ambition except for covering his own ass, and when it became apparent that he would be held to account for the Arteta hire and inherent risk, he chickened out. It also reveals profoundly what I've said about Arsenal ever since Kroenke took over: that footballing success is no longer a defining part of this club; that our ownership and management are content with milking the cash cow that is a Premiership, top-tier team with a cash cow stadium and a cash cow TV deal built on the back of the success of their predecessors and betters; and that we are set up in a cultural way (that is set up from the very top of the club and disseminated downwards) to not lose rather than to win.

    All of these things can be struggled against and can be mitigated to a certain extent by the Herculean efforts of people like Wenger (for all his obvious and unsustainable faults) and potentially Emery. But it doesn't solve the problem that this club is designed to avoid failure rather than to strive for success, and that has pervaded into the very way players play on the field. So Emery may be a great hire--and he may have "blown away" management with his knowledge and he may bring success to this club. But the way in which this decision was made galvanizes the point to me that this club has someone in charge who lacks character and that will come back to bite us, sooner or later.
     
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  6. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    I'm sorry, Brendan Rodgers has won the league every year with Celtic. It's insane that Emery didn't win his first year.

    I know he has excellent credentials from Spain, but to not win Ligue 1 with that team is just...
     
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  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    His credentials from Spain aren't even all that.
     
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  8. cantona94

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    Jul 16, 2000
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    I think we’ve seen the end of Arsenal as a truly trophy (league title that is) winning club....not necessarily for this hire, mind you, just for what it shows about our boardroom and whatnot. I think Arsenal will fight for 7-4 positions most years and launch a title challenge every 6-8 years, maybe.
     
  9. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    There's probably some really interesting stuff going on at the ownership level that we don't know about. I get the organizational control part, but the rest of this just is not adding up.

    I wonder if Kroenke has an NFL valuation mentality here. The NFL clubs are basically valued according to the national profile, their fan base, stadium situation, etc. The actual success of the club is not as important and in any case fluctuates too much to care about.

    The EPL is much different. If Arsenal does truly become a midtable team, I'd venture it'd be worth about half as much as it is now.
     
  10. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Arsenal are dead. I said it years ago, this is Penn State under Joe Pa, FSU under Bowden. We're done
     
  11. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    This is really odd as well. Assuming Emery really is the new hire, it's very odd that there was no trial balloon at all.
     
  12. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    I think Emery is a solid hire.

    My issue is how they played Arteta due to our idiotic fans.
     
  13. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Not a big fan of Emery but it is what it is
     
  14. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    --other--
    tbf, you don't really build a team around Ozil. He is a complimentary player.

    Also, dude is ridiculously detailed. I actually can believe The Sun's report.
     
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  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    I don't think he is a bad manager at all. I think he holding the position for the next guy.

    If in these two years he can instill tactical rigidity into the Iwobis, AMNs, etc, then I'm cool
     
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  16. total_football

    total_football Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Chicago
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    Arsenal FC
    It’s a one team league, effectively .

    Also Rogers —- not that I want him anywhere near the emirates —-at least plays attacking football. Emery is classical tactical counterattack, practically Italian comparatively speaking.
     
  17. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Also, I like the hire but do think Gazidis is a sucker who needs to leave the club, ASAP.
     
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  18. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
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    This; if what the Sun said is true then Emery sold them as he was the right man to take the club forward.
     
  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    This guy is a bitch ass...

    He didn't even use the entire Joaquin quote, so I cannot take him serious:

     
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  20. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
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    There's only one measure by which every club in Europe is identified by: being in the Champions League. For 20 years, titles or not, Arsenal was identified as a CL team. Now they're between a CL team or a EL team. Not the right place to be if you're the Kroenke and you want the value of the team to be stable
     
  21. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    God, we (Arsenal fans, I’ll include myself), are insufferable.
     
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  22. dsgerbc

    dsgerbc Member

    May 3, 2018
    Gonna be interesting to watch him. He had a spell in Spartak Moscow -- a team that tries to play like Arsenal -- and failed miserably due to his inability to communicate his ideas/tactics etc to the players. He better learn English and quick before the start of the season.
     
  23. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

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    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
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    998668121388044288 is not a valid tweet id

    Good news, the ball was moved out successfully.
    Bad news, I almost had a heart attack during 90% of the touches in this video. Holy **** that was scary.

    90 minutes of that will kill some of our older fans.
     
  24. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Listen, Wenger built a monster and here we are
     
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  25. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    Probably for similar reasons Americans are insufferable: neither can reconcile with a gradual but inevitable decline.
     
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