Oldham Athletic

Discussion in 'Other Divisions' started by kwik1980, Jun 13, 2003.

  1. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    Rumors are flying that 2nd-division club Oldham Athletic could be as little as 48 hours away from total liquidation and closure. Soccernet, and the BBC are reporting this, and the club has issued statements similar to that on their website, with manager Iain Dowie quoted as saying "Let no one be under any misapprehensions, this is almost the endgame now." The club statement says that it is a "virtual certainty" that they will miss payroll at the end of the month, rendering all of the players free agents.

    With the league schedule due to come out next week, it is obvious that this will have to be resolved soon. My question, to those with more knowledge of this than I, is if Oldham are forced to shut their doors, who plays in the 2nd division in their place next year. Would it be the losing 3rd division playoff finalists, Lincoln City, the highest-placed 3rd division team to not win promotion, Scunthorpe, or the highest-placed 2nd division team to be relegated, Cheltenham Town? If any of these options happen, who fills the now-open space in the 3rd Division? Exeter, who were the highest-placed relegated team? What then happens in the conference? Or does the 2nd division just play a club short this season? Any insight on this matter would be appreciated.
     
  2. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are on the fixture list. I would guess that if they are dissolved the league will just play with one less team for the season then figure out promotion and relegation issues.
     
  3. JoBeck

    JoBeck New Member

    Jul 24, 2000
    Wesschessduh
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a deal on the line that would bring in new investors, clear their debts and possibly give 1 million pounds to fund the club through next season but whether or not the new investors can get enough money for this will go down to the 11th hour... for the good of the game, I hope it happens...
     
  4. Peakite

    Peakite Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Halifax Town
    I can remember going along to support them and standing on the terrraces behind the goal when they were still there. And to see them winning a top flight game 5-1 was pretty fantastic.

    Would be sad to see them go under.
     
  5. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    As the fixtures are out, the list of competitors for each division is pretty much set in stone. I'd guess if they folded then going by what hapened when Aldershot & Maidstone folded mid-season, they'd play a 23 team Div 2 with only 3 going down, and the normal number promoted from div 3. Div 3 would only see one club go down, and the usual two up. The conference would only relegate two teams, and receive three promoted teams. One of the feeders to the conference now wouldn't receive a team so one of their relegated clubs would get a reprieve - and so on.

    If it wasn't for the 11th hour, no club would ever get saved.
     
  6. Peakite

    Peakite Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Halifax Town
    One of the Conference feeders is currently too full. Due to the situation regarding Barrow a few years back the Unibond currently has 23 teams rather than the normal 22, so any club disappearing above would see the effect ended at level six.
     
  7. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    The latest takeover deal for Oldahm Athletic was rejected by owner Chris Moore, and it looks like Friday (payday) is d-day for the Latics. If a deal can't be reached before Friday, liquidation will be the only option. Should Athletic remain in business, but not pay their players on Friday as scheduled, the players, after 2 weeks notice, will be free to go to other clubs. The Oldham Chronicle has an article on the dire situation at http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/SPORTM01.html

    In what could be a sign of things to come, the club shop closed "until further notice".
     
  8. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Carlo Corazzin has left Oldham and has signed on with the Vancouver Whitecaps.
     
  9. Desigol

    Desigol New Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    County Tyrone, NI
    Now Fitz Hall has joined Southampton, and Dowie's furious;

    http://u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=12368&pt=s
     
  10. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    I was wondering what his deal was. Despite being manager at Oldham he doesn't seem to fully realize how truely close to going kaput they are.

    As for Oldham being saved being good for football, I don't think it's a given. No offesnse to Oldham or any other lower league team but there are just too many clubs trying to be pro.
     
  11. Peakite

    Peakite Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Halifax Town
    Whichever non-league team he moved from to join Oldham will be pleased though. They have a decent sell on clause.

    The problem isn't with too many teams trying to turn pro. Indeed most of the newcomers are probably some of the best run as they've thought about it more recently. One even going back to semi-pro fora couple of seasons.

    The problem at the moment is that too much attention is focused on too few clubs.
     
  12. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    The latest on the Oldham saga...

    A takeover deal had apparently been aggreed to on Friday, July 11, where some of the higher-ups in the club, marketing director Sean Jarvis, and accountant Neil Joy would have purchased owner Chris Moore's stake in the club. That stake would have been divided between a suporters trust and other private investors. According to today's (July 15) Oldham Chronicle (www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk), that deal is "on the verge of collapse" because Chris Moore tried to add on 11th-hour provisions to the deal. Apparently the dispute focuses on approximately £160,000 , which the new owners would use to pay off the staff, who haven't been paid in 6 weeks. Moore apparently demands that the money go toward paying off a PFA loan. Chris Moore is denying the allegations, however, Oldham Athletic non-playing staff planned to confront Moore at his Oxford business.

    Meanwhile, the playing staff, or what is left of it (12 or 13 players) have gone with Iain Dowie to Northern Ireland to prepare for the coming season. Dowie is furious with Moore for continuing to sell players, which could possibly leave Athletic financially solvent, but with no one to play. Jarvis and Joy are furious with Moore for these supposed 11th-hour amendments that threaten their takeover bid, Moore is furious over the allegations, and the non-playing staff is furious that they haven't been paid in a month and a half. In a statement on the club website, Neil Joy claims that the club has "effectively 2 weeks to convince the Football League that it is able to fufill fixture commitments for the 2003/04 season." So, the Latics spin closer and closer to the brink. Meanwhile, a special fund-rasing match over the weekend, drew over 9,000 to Boundary Park, and raised £100,000 for the Oldham Supporters Trust.

    Not a good situation for Oldham, and should they survive, they would certainly be everyone's pre-season relegation favoirites, due to all the drama surrounding the club, and the reduction in the playing staff.
     
  13. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    It looks like Oldham will be saved from closure. Today's Oldham Chronicle is reporting that owner Chris Moore will sell his stake in the club, for a sum of £1, to either a Norweigan group, or to Neil Joy and Sean Jarvis. Money earned from the sale of players will be used to pay staff today, and while 6 players have left the squad, they should proceed as scheduled this season.
     
  14. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    You know, if there wasn't a real danger of Oldham ceasing to exist, and soon, the whole situation could easily be described as comical.

    Yet another takeover deal has fallen through, as the Norweigan man who had closed, in principle, a deal to buy Chris Moore's stake in the club, has been forced to abandon the deal upon losing his financial backer. Looking at statements from the official club website (www.oldhamathletic.co.uk), it looks like this may just be the final straw for the Latics, as this deal fell apart very late in the process, and many staff had been feeling relieved when the statement was made that there was a Norwegian deal that had been initially accepted.

    The Oldham Chronicle had been reporting on Friday that the club would be sold to Neil Joy and Sean Jarvis, should the Norweigan deal fall through, may have been premature, as no such transaction has gone through yet, and the phrase "this is our darkest hour" can be seen in statements on the official club website.

    I can't see how there can be any more 11th-hour attempts to save this club.
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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