Canadian Premier league

Discussion in 'Canada' started by mikehurst21, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    You're funny... but no, between NASL and MLS is what it's projected to be. CIS would be where CPL would be drafting first until they get rid of the draft. They don't intend of keeping that as a permanent thing

    It's very rare. They tend to look within their own system before looking outside. For TFC having to look at CIS doesn't say much about their system...does it? ;)

    That's the intend. There's LOTS of talent outside the MLS academies in Canada. That's why CPL will most likely surprise a few skeptics.
     
  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #1477 Robert Borden, Apr 23, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2018
    York 9 FC is confirmed for the Canadian Premier League

    Location: Vaughan, Ontario
    Population: 1.1 Millions

    Immediatly north of Toronto and part of the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), representing the 9 municipalities of York Region

    -Vaughan
    -Richmond Hill
    -Markham
    -Newmarket
    -Aurora
    -King
    -Georgina
    -East Gwillimbury
    -Witchurst-Stoufville

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  3. RocketRobin

    RocketRobin Member

    Canada
    Feb 3, 2007
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I went online and printed my own personalized ticket to this event so I'll check it out.
     
  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    likewise, i'll be there
     
  5. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I wasn't trying to be funny but rather serious. If the CPL launches with a bunch of young Canadians and a salting of more seasoned pros (kind of like what TFC fielded the past couple of weeks) it will be enjoyable enough to watch. No one will pretend it's the EPL or even MLS but it will be a sufficiently entertaining product to get people out to the games. That's a good thing and they can build from there.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    By drafting, it means that they would be prospects. From CIS, they would have now the incentive to move on to PLSQ or L1O except for that U20/U23 rule making it mandatory for them to play minutes.

    I think L1O and PLSQ guys are more likely to get an opportunity than CIS guys.
     
  7. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    I can't help but think they should go with "York09" to match "Schalke04". :)
    Still, encouraging progress.
     
  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #1483 Robert Borden, Apr 24, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
    http://canpl.ca/

    The league is rebooting their website



    Dear Canadian Premier League Fans,

    The Canadian Premier League is excited to announce that we will be launching our new website to coincide with the launch of our new campaign, beginning this week.

    Our new website will be the home for fans of the Canadian Premier League: who we are, what we stand for, and what we aspire to be. The site also boasts an intuitive and clean design and navigation. In addition, we will introduce a new fan program launching later this year that will contain content and features to provide you with a tailored and personalized experience.

    This means that fans.canpl.ca will no longer be available and that your login will no longer be active. However, you can register to become a fan of the league or a member of your local club as they are announced.

    We look forward to supporting the future of soccer in Canada together!

    CPL Team
    #CanPL
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Halifax announcement is imminent

    The name is expected to be the Halifax Wanderers


    The motion below was passed

    And Halifax update https://globalnews.ca/news/4160093/halifax-council-apr-24/
    • Council is being asked to consider a one-year lease agreement for the 2018 season, which will function as a trial run for the project. The municipality is also being asked to examine a separate three-year lease that will have SEA use the stadium to host Canadian Premier League soccer games in 2019, 2020 and 2021.

      If passed, SEA will hold eight events during 2018:

    • One Senior Men’s rugby game between Canada and the United States on June 23.
    • Three soccer games in July between Nova Scotia’s under-23 team and England’s under-20 team. The games are scheduled for July 14, 18 and 21 but are conditional on the status of the field after the rugby game in June.
    • One rugby game between Canada and England’s under-20 teams in August.
    • One rugby game and one soccer game in September.
    • One high school football game, the High School Turkey Bowl in October.
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  10. wopchop

    wopchop New Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    #1485 wopchop, Apr 25, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2018
    I would love to see York 9 FC be successful, but with the GTAs track record of supporting "minor league" clubs, it is hard to imagine. But I suppose that depends on what kind of crowd they are banking on? I think breaking 5k in attendance will be a stretch.

    You can say all you want that it isn't minor league because it will be CPL, but it will certainly be seen as minor league in comparison to TFC.

    Although the Marlies are doing well now with attendance (over 6k now), so maybe I'm wrong.
     
  11. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    It's encouraging to receive that CPL email - it makes me think that this might actually go ahead. I wonder if they will announce a full 8- or 10- club league to start next season?
    As for York9, I could see them building a stadium in Vaughan next to the new subway stop. There is a large Italian population in the area that would probably support the team. Even if people don't come from the upper reaches of York region to attend the games, there are more people in Vaughan, Markham and Richmond Hill than in the greater Halifax area.
     
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It's been debunked to death. I encourage you to search the average attendances of said minor teams.

    1.1 Millions people lives in York Region on top of the ~675k living in North York. I really think they'll be more than fine now that the subway goes to York University, Pioneer Village and in Vaughan (Highway 407 & Vaughan Metropolitan Centre)

    TFC pull on the GTA has been greatly exaggerated by some fans since they had that playoff derby with Montreal 2 years ago. Before that, they were a joke within the city and marginal outside of it. Even the media would barely talk about them.

    Now, yes, they are way more mainstream due to those 2 back to back playoff runs, MLS cups and recent Champions League run, but that NEW!!! Some fans are projecting how big they view TFC onto the whole region which simply isn't reality. Regular season TV ratings certainly doesn't support that they are a huge regional draw. Hell, huge TFC fans and followers asking if anyone knows any bars that will guarantee TFC being on TV regardless of the Jays, Raptors and Maple Leafs virtually playing at the same time tonight.


    (Real Sports should, Shoeless Joe's and Scallywags should)

    Now, as for the perception of minor vs major league, if the CFL is any indication, expect CPL to be treated in the same regard. Both NFL and CFL are considered major leagues in Canada despite the clear difference in talent between both leagues.

    The Toronto Wolfpack (Rugby) drew over 7k in their 1st year. I'm not worry about York. It's far enough from Exhibition and have enough population to do ok. I'd like to think that they did their homework before planning a 15-20k stadium in Vaughan.
     
  13. wopchop

    wopchop New Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    #1488 wopchop, Apr 25, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2018
    I've been looking and maybe I'm missing something, but the attendance isn't much to write home about. The Marlies only started breaking 6k recently (which I admit is encouraging).The Wolfpack are also drawing well, which is also good to see. However, both of these teams are downtown.

    But there are plenty of opposite examples, and they are all located in the suburbs. Raptors 905 look good on paper, but the ACC games hide the truly poor crowds that they draw at the Hershey Centre. The Mississauga Steelheads are between 2-3k. The St Michaels Majors were under 2k before they relocated to Mississauga. Brampton Battalion werewere worse than the Steelheads. The Oshawa Generals are 4-5k. The Hamilton Bulldogs are just above 4k.

    Who else is there? Maple Leafs Baseball? Junior A Hockey teams?

    You don't need to remind me of this - I've been a season ticket holder for over a decade now. And what you are saying is exactly my point. TFC success is all recent and they are still a non-entity in the media, general conciousness (but growing) and on television. York9 will be in the same situation that TFC was prior to success, but even worse, as they'll compete with TFC for that scant attention. They will certainly have their work cut out for them.


    I would like to think so too, but the North America sports landscape hasha long history of failed franchises that had investors who "did their honework"

    I hope that I'm wrong. I want a CPL that is strong and I want a successful club game in this country. Obviously the league's success is probably not contingent on Toronto (at least I hope not), so I don't mean to say that York9 will doom the league.
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Most of the GTA lives outside of downtown Toronto.

    We're not talking Mississauga but York Region. Since you are picking and choosing l, why are you leaving both the Kitchener Rangers and London Knights out of it? Both are targets of the CPL.

    Just debunking the assumption that the league haven't done their due diligence. York Region has the population to support a CPL team, let's not forget that a Markham 20k seats arena was planned for the NHL. Hard to believe that they can't draw 10k out of 1.1M + 675k from North York with good marketing.

    But York 9 are targeting people who aren't fans of MLS or TFC. It's innacurate to assume that most of them watch TFC (TV ratings don't support that) and drive to Exhibition or commute for 2 hours to go see a game.

    There's a huge demand in soccer which TFC nor MLS haven't met since 2008.
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The old CSL doom was plagued by bad ownership and bad structure. They didn't do their homework. I can't speak for the American side.

    CPL are doing the opposite of that
     
  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Rumors regarding the York Region Stadium:
    • 15k-20k seats
    • Near the future Kirby GO Station (for those who know the areas)
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "9 municipalities one club" doesn't exactly flow off the tongue.
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I totally agree and I'm not a fan of the name nor the rumored location of the stadium. However, I have an outsider point of view.

    From the team perspective, it's critical to have people within York Region to care about the team and make them feel it's their team. If their marketing pulls it off, it could become one of the biggest club in the league if they can have the region watch them on TV, sell out the stadium and buy merchandise.

    15k-20k is very ambitious but they must have made their due diligence and came to the conclusion that it could be done over time. I get the logic behind the very "unsexy" name.

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  19. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Kirby GO Station is by no means guaranteed - it’s the one that Del Duca wants to build in his riding - but the business case for it is rather sketchy.
     
  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #1495 Robert Borden, Apr 27, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2018




    http://canpl.ca/article/debut

    The CPL Emblem Defined

    The Canadian Premier League emblem tells the story of the Canadian soccer journey from club to community to country. Inspired by the North Star, the central icon acts as a guiding light for soccer in Canada. The star is surrounded by additional elements that make up Canada including the land, coasts, sky and a maple leaf.

    The official colours in the logo – “Pitch Green”, “Sky Navy” and “Ocean Blue” – reflect our cultural mosaic as seen through the colours in the Northern Lights.

    An honoured red version of the emblem will be used by the league and clubs during special occasions including Canada Day and when clubs play in the CONCACAF Champions League and Canadian Championship.
     
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  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Teams will be able to change the color of the league emblem to match their kit colors

    A gold emblem of the league will be introduced in 2020. The defending champion will wear it all season long.
     
  22. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I like it. So glad they didn't stick a ball or a player on it. I hate that sort of thing.
     
  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  24. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Perhaps more active use of the stadium is meant to enchance said business case.
     
  25. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I'm more interested in the countdown to the first club announcement in (at the time of writing) 12 days. So long as it isn't just a re-announcement of Hamilton or Winnipeg.
     

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