Potential 2026 WC Hosts (Update: Morocco Sole Challenger to CONCACAF Bid)

(just considering the countries from the north american bid)

That compared to the yearly killing of baby seals perpetrated by Canadians with wooden clubs, just to rip their skin off, leaving them bleeding barely alive, most of the times, to freeze on the cold northen arctic ice, till death gets to them, is in context, lots more cruel towards innocent animals, incapable of defending themselves. What's worse is that the canadian government endorses it, giving protection to those who do it, against the actions of conservation international groups who try to deal with it against them.

The USA, is among the countries where season hunting for wild animals is one of the most widespread activities and for most of their citizens, they consider it a sport as well, even though to most neutral observers is just a cruel carnage over diferent type of prey, where animals don't hold any chance of making out of it alive. Many times, the poor hunted animals are left with painful fatal injuries that take quite a long time for them to effectively die.

Besides, at Mexico (the same as many other countries in the world), they deal with stray dogs with almost the same means seen in that footage, together with lots of other killing forms, even worse than those seen there, as well.

For one form or the other, among humans of almost the whole world, there is no real limit to human cruelty over animals. If you really want to find "odd things" as such, all you need to do, is focus your view on the activities no one wants to look at, and you'll probably see them happening (in no country, they are absolutely free from them ........)

 

FIFA doesn't care about human rights, they probably don't care about any other animal rights either.

 

I know that.

My past post was just a reply to someone else, who probably meant it to be as being something that should or might get considered to affect the morocccan bid, to which with what I posted, clearly points out that the north american bid, is even worse over the same type of issues. Apart from the gun control issue, some others have also mentioned, before (which also has no value for FIFA).

 

A good column about the smear campaigns against the Moroccan bid the last couple of weeks and the sheer hypocrisy

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...ifa-trying-hard-not-let-shithole-country-win/

 

You're deliberately missing the part where it wasn't the poster who made the connection between the bad practice and the bid. It was the article that mentioned it specifically happening ahead of the tour.

 

Was it the article he mentioned, or was it him the one who literally wrote about it as "not a good look" ?

 

wait till june 13th and you'll see

 

Do you know of any precedents which support that prediction?

 

Ah! But I didn't say it was a bad look. It's a very tepid comment so don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm not neutral but I'm not a smokescreener either. If a similar report on the United bid comes out I will post it.

 

Scorecard: Who's supporting whom in World Cup 2026 bid race:
https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...d-whos-supporting-whom-in-world-cup-2026.html

 

Not looking good for Morocco in the technical aspects.

https://apnews.com/amp/2aaf5b9542d448e988fe4a6f40252b21

 

On the technical aspect Morocco will probably get a very low grade and that, hopefully, will prevent them from reaching the voting stage and the CONCACAF bid will win. Not hating on Morocco but I'm sure they can spend their $16 billion on other things besides stadia. Maybe they can spend that money on improving their large social problems (poverty?).
Actually, I think $16 billion is a tiny amount to spend on what amounts to the creation of 15 new stadiums and other large infrastructure. Such a paltry amount necessarily means that some of the stadiums will be quite cheap since its not just the stadium but also the roads that lead to those stadiums that have to be built.
For FIFA eliminating strong, but financially weak bids, at the technical stage is a good way to prevent what could be ruinous financial commitments from countries (in this case Morocco) that cannot afford such commitments.

 

Morocco is only spending 3 billion on stadia not 16. 13 billion is for TGV, hospitals etc.
Also what I found funny, is that FIFA critized the obstructed view in the stadiums. As if all those A-Football stadiums in the US don't have that problem.

 

Look, man, $3 billion for stadiums is truly a small sum. A world class main stadium (for the final) costs $1 billion or more, if you want that.
I mean the World Cup is an important event and we must demand that it not be done in a cheap and mediocre way. As for the $13 billion for other infrastructure, well, that's just not enough. Just look at what Russia and Qatar have spent and continue to spend. The amounts I've heard from those two are a bit astounding. Also, I do not think Morocco even has $16 billion to spend on anything, especially a World Cup. You know, what's promised is not always what can be delivered.

 

I'd rather have cheap stadiums, they create better atmosphere. I hate the billion dollar stadiums we have in the NFL. In England, the expensive stadium are not as good to watch games on TV as the older stadiums. True in the US too.

I think it is hard to judge what a country should spend money on and what they can afford. It is hard to say US cities can afford the stadia they have built for the NFL when you look the state of their schools, etc... but they choose to. Same for the US military budget. But, it must be said, the stadiums are built already, and have teams to play in them, and I do hate the white elephants of past World Cups and Olympics.

As for the other infrastructure in Morocco; I do hope that would happen. Infrastructure sometimes is an empty promise in these things. The stadium gets done, but not the infrastructure. See Brazil.

As for the overall dollar number comparisons; Russia is far to corrupt to say use their dollar numbers as an example of what it takes to put on these events. I would guess it could be done cheaper in Morocco than in Russia (corruption) and Qatar (lack of labor).

 

lol In the US maybe.
Allianz Arena = 340 million euros
Stade de France = 290 million euros
Millenium Stadium = 126 million pounds
FNB stadium = 320 million euros
etc....
I know that the cost will probably rise, but some people here think that Morocco needs to start from scratch and that's simply not true. Morocco has highways with european standards and a decent rail network and airports. The only thing that's lacking are world class hospitals.

 

To be fair, the US by itself without México or Canada has more people in poverty and extreme poverty than Morocco does. Even though the percentage of people in the US in poverty is much lower, the total number is higher.

And those measures are international adjusted standards, not country level standards, which would vary quite a bit by standard cost of living and wage levels ratios, standards of living, and political driven definitions, etc. In other words, the measures used to arrive at these numbers are essentially based on what creates the same level of problems (though not always the same type) for the people in each country.

The US is an extraordinarily rich country by most measures, but it still has a large number of people in poverty. Inequality is growing faster and faster in the US and is one of the reasons why organizations that track global poverty and work to eliminate it have had to start including “rich countries” in their data and analysis. They didn’t used to look at the US. Now they do.

That doesn’t mean necessarily that the problems are comparable FOR HOW THEY ARE RELEVANT to the World Cup bids. The US doesn’t really have any lack of resources to solve its poverty problem. By any stretch of the imagination. We could toss 50 billion at a World Cup and still have plenty to address poverty. We just don’t choose to.

 

one of the best posts recently, part about infrastructure is 100% correct, most people oversee that when shouting out big sums of money long before those should be available. and the costs always rise, so if they say 15 million, you can expect minimum 20 if not more.

still, the main issue stays: FIFA doesnt care about anything but their own money!

 

So what? I think that the beauty of the CONCACAF bid is that for the US, at least, most of the work has been done. In other worlds, the decisions to spend money on poverty eradication programs and/or building multi-billion dollar stadiums has been made.
Morocco is all promises about the future. Yes there are plenty of problems in the US, but they are indeed tiny compared to the problems of Morocco a country that by any measure is a third world mess. Don't you think that Morocco can spend its meager resources on its people and not on the luxury of hosting a World Cup (and yes! the World Cup is a luxury)? For all the problems you cite about the US, the fact is that the stadiums are there, they can be used for a World Cup or a music festival of some kind during the summer. I personally prefer the World Cup.
And I'll be glad if FIFA does Morocco a favor and tells them the truth and denies them a World Cup.

 

No comment...

 

Um ... I’m not sure I said anything that different from what you said?

 

Yes, that’s the one part on which I think I would differ with the post you quote. Morocco seems to have advanced a fair bit economically in recent decades, both in terms of the growth of the overall economy and the consistent decrease in the percentage of the population considered living in poverty/extreme poverty. What remains seems to be a mixed result of unequal realization of the gains, the effects of drought, and globalization-related structural changes to labor that are hardly unique to Morocco.

 

german tv magazine spiegel.de came up with the story, that infantino tried to avoid morocco by a change of rules.

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussbal...richter-der-wm-2026-verhindern-a-1204196.html

the article states, that the list of requirements by the task force, which might reject a bid AHEAD of the vote was increased from 8 pages up to 50 and one requirement should have been an increased number of already existing stadias from 4 to 6, with morocco having 5 existing stadia. However, the task force was neglecting the increasement and rejected media articles claiming, that this has been in discussion.

 

Infantino's so shady.

 

what i don't understand about the united bid...

in former cycles there were strict requirements on the selected stadium having large parts of the seats being covered.

but when i look the selected stadia, there are many which haven't any seat covers at all?! Isn't this requirement still valid for 2026?