Copa Libertadores 2018

Les dije: Libertad se veía fuerte desde el primer juego.

 

Desde hace años estan teniendo bajo rendimiento....no me sorprende,

 

The Chilean league was good for a wink, but they're returning back to their median.

 

La policía de Brasil no puede evitarlo, le encanta repartir palazos a hinchas argentinos de forma indiscriminada.

Todos los años...

 

Rio police you mean?

and anyway, Argentine fans can´t avoid it, it amazes them to be racists and throw bananas at brazilian blacks... that's what happened in the Vasco x Racing match.

if your fans can´t behave and try to fight with the police, do you expect the police to retribute with roses?

 

I am no enemy of brazilian people either. The police is another subject.

The examples are just too many to mention, it seems at least from 50% of the matches with argentinian teams there is always an incident with the fans (and sometimes with the players too) and even if you were to demonize them ("they provoke, they etc." they're the ones that are always at the receiving end...

There are countless episodes with the brazilian police and argentinian teams and i can't even remember if there are any the other way around or in that degree. And I hate the argentinian (Federal, Provincia, Rosario, etc.) police too, so don't think it's about that. It's just that the repression or the cops "authority" in football seems to be more socially accepted than here... because to even think of sending a cohort marching in to a packed stand of fans makes no freaking sense at all. What's your goal, what's to be accomplished?

Let's even say i'd concede wrongdoings from the fans (I don't, but whatever, there may as well had been idiots as there are anywhere), it seems the police have this modus operandi of entering the packed stands in midmatch (first crazy idea), and indiscriminately starting pepperspraying/tear-gasing/beating anything that comes near their reach: men, women or elderly, having done sth or not.

The match you mention with At. Mineiro is a great example of that. Being able to identify whoever was holding the supposed stolen flag (after failing to first detaining them at the entry, at any of the check ups) they chose to enter the stands and beat anyone that passed through... Impractical and brutal, but they love it.

I'm not going to beat around the bush: It's much safer to be a brazilian fan traveling to Argentina than an argentine traveling to Brazil in relation to the State's armed forces. Not talking about the people, just the police (be it Rio, Porto Alegre, San Pablo, the militarized police or whatever they're called).

Cruzeiro had no problems a month ago either, Palmeiras fans that packed the Bombonera the other night either (I enjoyed their win, btw). This is 2 blocks away from the Cilindro just a week ago, Vasco fans having a beer together with Racing fans, no problem at all, as it should always be.



Edit: Aaaaaaaaand marching together to the stadium...

 

Racing fans claim the banana thing was a lie. The police entered the racing grades to arrest one guy they thought had stolen a journalist "pechera" (don't know the Word for it in english sorry), the other fans got involved only because they tried to defend the guy.

Here's an interview with the fan in question: https://www.tycsports.com/nota/racing-club/2018/04/26/incidentes-en-rio-fue-solo-un-mal-momento.HTML

He says he did not stole anything, some argentine journalists gave it to him before entering the stadium. In fact, it seems the police believed him because he was released and returned to the stands.

 

Well, it's quite obvious, they play at insane altitude and not even with that they can get to 9 points.

 

Yimmy Chara is the worst player of the tournament

 

Massive win for independiente (my club). Finally we are playing again like the sudamericana champions.

Ps. The refs stole us one legitimate goal at home and now also one away against corinthians. But whatever...

 

Fuc.k i didnt know you olayed today...

Millos is done

 

Octavos!!!

Damn it was a tough match... now to Brazil to fight for the 1st spot.

But whats the difference of classifying 1st or 2nd? I heard it won't be like past years when it was the 1st vs the 16th and so on, so what will it change?