2018 Fire Roster Speculation

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  1. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #901 chiladd, Apr 19, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2018
    Bakero scored a final moments equalizer for Tulsa last night. He's going to tear up USL , He's going to be Tulsa's offensive focal point. The USL season now matches MLS with 34 games . This is a smart move by the Fire if it's long term focused.
    I think Cleveland and him being loaned out is a sign that the Fire are in fact serious about Iker and Torres.
     
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  2. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Forgot to add that Bakero set up the first Tulsa goal. So he had an assist and a goal in his 45 minute appearance for Tulsa.
     
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  3. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, we couldn't use that. . .
     
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  4. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
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  5. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  6. rooked

    rooked Member+

    Jan 21, 2013
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    Chicago Fire
    We should make an offer for Keisuke Honda from Pachuca
     
  7. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Orlando City had the draft pick right after us and selected Schaumburg native Chris Mueller. Chris already has 2 goals and has started in half of Orlando's games this season. A Chicago area kid that was selected as the 2017 Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year. I can see why he was overlooked by the top notch Chicago Fire scouting system.
     
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  8. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has he fallen out of favor with them? He's really good but I wouldn't think the Fire would chase him.
     
  9. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I thought Mueller would go in the top 3 , possibly #1. He was my sure fire pick in the draft and the guy I thought the Fire should trade up as high as they could get. Posted on the draft thread he would hit the ground running and be a natural fit on the current team. His passing game is top notch and wouldn't miss a beat with teammates like Polster, Dax and Bastian.

    I was shocked, but really shouldn't have been , that they passed on him .

     
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  10. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    We passed on him and took Bakero instead because Bakero won the MAC Hermann and was killing it in the Combine.

    And now Pauno apparently doesn't like "his attitude" or something BS like that. Bakero could be playing like Mueller if Pauno let him.

    But yeah, we should've had Mueller in our academy system already.
     
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  11. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Faced with strong, professional personalities like Niko, Basti and Dax an I experienced coach is going to channel his insecurities into the bullying the rookies.
     
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  12. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No it's the opposite actually. It took him months to gel with the team but he is playing really well for them now. I think he has like 3 or 4 goals in the last two games.
     
  13. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've hardly watched Pachuca for a long time. He has great crossing ability, that much I remember about him with AC Milan and few nat team games. It would be nice but Hauptman splurging on him? I can't see it happening, much less trying.
     
  14. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm pretty sure Pachuca doesn't accept GAM/TAM so game over.
     
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  15. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    or low ball offers.......
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We cpuld go after him but lose a "blind draw" to LAFC.

    The Fire show ambition.
    LAFC receive a good player.
    Hauptman does not have spend his wife's father's money.

    Everyone wins...except Fire fans (as always).
     
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  17. FireJuveChelsea

    Dec 7, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Rumor is Torres is being pursued by the Impact now.....so we'd probably get some more money that we won't use again.....yay! I don't really want Torres for the money he is requesting but yet again another team would be improving while we don't do anything...
     
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  18. rooked

    rooked Member+

    Jan 21, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would be all for getting some money from the Impact for Torres that we can use to bring in someone like Honda or one of the others that we are rumored to be interested in.
     
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  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think we only receive, at most, $50,000 if all we have is a "Discovery" claim on him.
    You could barely buy a Honda Pilot for that.

    By the way, "Discovery" claim is one of the most idiotic designations ever.

    Yes, the Chicago Fire "discovered" Fernando Torres, after he was at Atletico Madrid, Liverpool, Chelsea, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid. Oh, and won a friggin' World Cup and European Championship, not to mention the Champions League, Europa League and the Premiership.

    Yeah, we discovered him.

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/mls-roster-rules-and-regulations#discover-process
    Here is the rule:
    If a club attempts to sign a player on its Discovery List and is unable to do so, the club retains the Right of First Refusal to acquire the player in the event he is later signed by the League for four full Transfer Windows.

    If a club wants to sign a player on the Discovery List of another team, it may offer that team US$50,000 in General Allocation Money in exchange for the right to sign the player. The club with the player on its Discovery List will then have five days (or three days during the Secondary Transfer Window) to either (i) accept the General Allocation Money and give up the right to sign the player or (ii) make the player a genuine, objectively reasonable offer.
     
  20. FireJuveChelsea

    Dec 7, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agreed. They need to get rid of that stupid of discovery claim bs
     
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  21. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How else are they going to make sure a certain franchise gets a certain player? It's not like Basti wanted to come here.
     
  22. FireJuveChelsea

    Dec 7, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  23. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Would be a very solid signing , but we're in competition with at least five other clubs-two of which are MLS clubs. I think Orlando has first dibs on him through the discovery.

     
  24. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Trade Torres for him.
     
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  25. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That would be a particularly MLS thing to do. Trade the rights to first shot at signing a player to another team for their rights to the first shot at signing another player. All this even though both players would actually be signed by the league itself, if they even decided to play here at all.
     
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