South American, Central American & Caribbean Elections.

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  1. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
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    Club Nacional de Football
  2. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    At the Peru ballotage., Kuzczynski got 8.591.802 votes and Keiko Fujimori got 8.549.205.

    A million votes were null.
     
  3. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
  4. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Are Smith and Johnson traditional North American names?
     
  5. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    They are now! :)

    Smith was at Plymouth Plantation and all the men had Johnsons! :p
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not elections, but a vote.

    Colombians vote down peace treaty with FARC.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colombia-peace-idUSKCN1230BH
     
  7. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  8. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Basically, everybody living in greater buenos aires who is on the dole as it were voted for Cristina, and everyone who is educated and middle class voted for Cambiemos.

    Argentina in recent years has become the most easily predictable country when it comes to elections. You just need to go municipality by municipality, or in the case of the Capital Federal neighborhood by neighborhood, and you can predict the results based on the average income or the number of university graduates.

    For example, Vicente Lopez and San Isidro, the two wealthiest and most educated municipalities in greater BsAs both saw over 61% go for Cambiemos. In the capital itself, Recoleta, the wealthiest neighborhood in the city, had 68% go for Cambiemos, Palermo 62%, Nuñez/Belgrano also 62%.

    The wealthy municipalities in the interior of the province where farming is the economic motor, Pergamino went 58% to Cambiemos, San Antonio de Areco 55%, Mercedes 54%, Rojas 58%...

    Meanwhile, in the places where poverty and living conditions are worse than many caribbean islands, you see that Cristina does well, yet even there, its nothing compared to what it used to be. Florencio Varela, the poorest and most dangerous municipality in the urban cone, she got just 49% of the vote- in 2011 she was well over 60% there.

    Peronism and Kirchnerism may not be dead, but it took a major blow Sunday night and Argentina can only grow from it.
     
  9. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    90 % of Cambiemos voters are profoundly ignorant, bordering iliterate. They will do whatever media tells them.

    The rest are educated alt right fascists who work for the government or the media. Some arent even fascist, just mercenaries.

    About kirchnerism, i too hope is dead.

    Meanwhile, the REALLY educated,graduated, book smart population, just like everywhere, is a huge minority and always votes for the left. In Argentina, around 7%. Its about right.

    This country is doomed anyway.
     
  10. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    LOL give me a break. 90% of cambiemos voters are illiterate, ignorant, and do what media tells them. Talk about ignorance...
     
  11. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    A llorar a la iglesia!

    A57.jpg
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No, no no. Voting for Cambiemos was the smart decision. There are of course issues with Cambiemos, but under Macri's leadership they've done a number of things that desperately needed to be done for our dear Argentina, after Kirchner's disastrous policies.

    Some of them:

    -Devaluated the currency: Kirchner's fake and arbitrary value of the peso against foreign currency created a black market and destroyed the nation's credit and basically it's ability to do business on even terms internationally. Yes devaluation hurts in the short term, but now we have a currency that's based on supply and demand, and not on somebody's whims.

    - Eliminated the restrictions on the purchase of foreign currency: This also eliminated the black market for currency created by Kirchner's policies and helped stop the flight of Capital from Argentina. Black markets of course benefits the criminal elements and the corrupt, basically the Kirchner cronies.

    - Eliminated the heavy tariffs on exports: Seriously, which country sabotages its own exporters? The restrictions on exports of agricultural products in particular had nefarious effects on what has always been the bread and butter of Argentina's economy. Predictably, exports surged and the agricultural sector in particular started experiencing significant growth

    - Started keeping real statistics instead of making up numbers to lie about the state of the nation's economy: How can anybody do business based on fake economic figures, including fake rates of inflation, fake poverty rates etc, all invented by the Kirchners to dupe the masses and make them think that things are not as they are. At least now we know exactly where we stand, and we can plan accordingly.

    These are just a few of the policies that started turning Argentina from the chaos that we were in. Thankfully the people are giving Cambiemos a chance, in spite of all the efforts of the Kirchneristas to discredit them with their lies, intimidation and dirty tactics
     
  13. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    LOL
     
  14. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Seriously? I dont like Cristina, i ve never voted for her, i hate corruption, autorotarism and violence

    Everything that Cambiemos say about the Ks they are too. And then some. I see you dont live here because Cambiemos is the most corrupt, violent, fascist, authoritarian and imbecile government we had since the 70s.

    Seguiría en español pero informense (no con clarin a quien macri le da 500 millones de pauta) de lo que pasa en este país. Macri recortandole 100 millones a los jubilados y vallando el congreso con 900 gendarmes para debatir una ley INCONSTITUCIONAL. La gendarmería reprimiendo y cagando a palos. Hay miles de videos de los gendarmes llevandose viejitos q tomaban mate, agarrando entre 8 y manoseando a una piba que pasaba por ahi, tirandple gas pimienta vencido en la cara a opositores y mucho más. Hay prueba de todo esto. Y los mismos funcionarios mscristas dixiendo (amrnazando) por tv q si no sale la ley EL PAÍS SE HUNDE.

    Mirá si habrán manejado bien el pais QUE SI NO LES SALE UNA LEY QUE HAMBREA JUBILADOS Y NIÑOS POBRES se les cae la economía

    Por favor, no solo son burros, inútiles, inoperantes y no tienen puta idea de como manejar un país. Son violentos autoritarios y fascistas.

    Tengan un poco de decoro y borren esos posts, que quedan pegados a este fascista inútil que tiró su pais por la borda. O llamense a silencio que va a parexer q les gusta manosear pibitas y cagar a palos a los viejos.
     
  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    A bunch of elections in late 2017 to early 2019.

    The right (after many years of center left government) wins one in Chile.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42388019

    Low turnout, that is bad for Latin American democracy, people are tuning out elections more often it seems.

     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Former Presidents party wins the most seats in Colombia.

    His party is right of center.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-43367222



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d2b009466bc_story.html?utm_term=.c03bee010d6f
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Well he never had full control of the country with the opposition being the majority in Congress.

    The funny thing is that Keiko Fujimori may have helped set up her brother on this scandal, payback for betraying her when he voted to not impeach the president last year.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/world/americas/peru-kuczynski-resigns.html
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    South American, Latin America, this thread should be good for both.

    One Lula in Brazil was arrested for corruption and for now he is not allowed to run for President (unless the Electoral court changes some rules about running while on trial/appeal).

    In Costa Rican news, the center left candidate won the Alvarado vs Alvarado (no relation) race.

    The race took a turn for the dangerous when the Latin American human rights court ruled that countries have to recognize gay marriage under their laws.

    This gave a boost to the evangelical candidate that strongly opposed the ruling and said he would disobey the order, he made the second round for the run-off.

    But crisis averted, the not crazy candidate ended up wining in a land slide.

    https://www.economist.com/news/amer...-constitutional-traditions-unexpected-victory

    BTW @American Brummie more incorrect polling.


     
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  19. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah isn't that the darnedest thing.
     
  20. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Btw, Carlos Alvarado was a progressive rock singer.
     
  21. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Do they still use the firing squad for that or is it hanging these days?
     
  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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  23. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
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    Club Nacional de Football
    Jair Bolsonaro is utterly crazy.
     
  24. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Polarization is a world-wide phenomenon right now. In Brazil, right wing (far right) candidate Jair Bolsonaro -a former military officer- faces left wing (far left) candidate Fernando Hadad -Lula’s protégée. It looks like the right winger will win, but either way Brazil is screwed especially considering the social and economic challenges they are already facing. And as South America’s largest nation goes, all South America suffers the consequences.

    Do all strong leaders have to be extremists? Where are the moderate candidates who lead by building consensus and by understanding the short-term and long term ramifications of policies? Nobody wants them. Crazies yelling at each other, forcing the meek majority to take sides, becoming more and more radical, can only lead to disaster. There seems to be no voice of reason left. That’s what the world is coming to.
     
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  25. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Well.....Argentina should take the lead and MAGA!
     

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